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[00:00] <Weedy> Dear Customer:
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[00:00] <Himeko> i had soem shoes sent in the post from england, wasn't too expensive
[00:00] <Weedy> FUCK
[00:00] <EvilDevil> vp6?
[00:01] <Himeko> that was my question too
[00:01] <Weedy> dual p3 mb
[00:01] <Himeko> ah, abit
[00:01] <Himeko> needs caps replaced usually
[00:01] <Weedy> yup
[00:02] <Himeko> i just picked up a free compaq preo workstation
[00:02] <Himeko> dual 1ghz xeon
[00:02] <Himeko> 1gb rdram
[00:02] <Weedy> wtf
[00:02] <Weedy> gimme
[00:02] <Weedy> I need it
[00:02] <Weedy> >.>
[00:02] <Himeko> it's almost better than my server
[00:03] <Weedy> ..
[00:03] <Himeko> a quad xeon 550 with 2gb edo
[00:03] <Weedy> which is why your going to send it to me
[00:03] <Weedy> EDO?
[00:03] <Weedy> rotfl
[00:04] <Himeko> yep, all p2 and p3 xeon until the cu core xeons used edo
[00:04] <EvilDevil> Himeko where do you live? i might consider moving to your neighbourhood ;)
[00:04] <Himeko> and the cu core xeon is basically a regular p3 in a xeon case
[00:05] <Himeko> i also live in canada
[00:06] <Himeko> http://members.shaw.ca/himeko/server2.jpg
[00:07] <Gharza> is there a python packagae?
[00:09] <EvilDevil> my server is a little "smaller" http://www.patrickschneider.info/slugcastle.htm
[00:09] <EvilDevil> (sorry, german text)
[00:10] <Himeko> ich kann ein bitte deutch lesen.
[00:10] <EvilDevil> nice :)
[00:10] <Himeko> wups +s
[00:11] <Gharza> when will the traker reopen?
[00:11] <EvilDevil> bitte = please ... bisschen = a little bit
[00:11] <gr8w11ne> EvilDevil: wiring dogs breakfast
[00:12] <EvilDevil> fortunately there's no dog ;) only a cat, and she doesn't cares about the wires.. they don't move! ;)
[00:13] <Gharza> ?
[00:14] <Himeko> ya, i said it right in my head but typed out soemthing elese
[00:14] <Himeko> i am always replacing words when i type
[00:14] <Himeko> even in english
[00:14] <EvilDevil> Himeko happens to me too :)
[00:14] <Flyashi> w00t just got my wgt :)
[00:15] <Flyashi> about to solder a serial cable using max233.. the router gives 3V as vcc right?
[00:15] Action: drayen is feeling very stupid after deleting /etc/init.d/S40 firewall
[00:16] <drayen> seems to have some what bricked the router :S
[00:18] <Gharza> python pakage?
[00:18] <[olli]> drayen: failsafe mode
[00:19] <drayen> olli - going to read up on that now :)
[00:19] <EvilDevil> Gharza: openwrt homepage -> package search
[00:19] <EvilDevil> oops.. it's down
[00:19] <EvilDevil> try ipkg search
[00:22] <drayen> [olli], going to give that a try :) brb
[00:25] <nou> what's best than wgt634u ? (mini-pci, cheap)
[00:26] <Eagle_Fire> the wgt's are the cheapest minipci at $40
[00:26] <nou> $40 ? oh refurbished one on ebay/amazon
[00:27] <Eagle_Fire> or justdeals.com
[00:28] <nou> i can't buy from america, it's *beep*ing expensive
[00:28] <Eagle_Fire> only shipping
[00:29] <Eagle_Fire> if you buy from elsewhere the prices are high anyway
[00:29] <Eagle_Fire> you could always move to america
[00:30] <frop> justdeals is great
[00:30] <Eagle_Fire> hey frop
[00:30] <nou> "you could always move to america" lol, no comment. don't want to spoil anything so i will shut up
[00:30] <frop> lo Eagle_Fire
[00:30] <Eagle_Fire> lou_, was looking for you
[00:31] <frop> for me?
[00:31] <frop> rly?
[00:32] <frop> ...btw...who is lou_?
[00:32] <Eagle_Fire> he's new
[00:32] <frop> ohh
[00:32] <Eagle_Fire> saw my cell phone router page and wanted to know how he could do SPI interface for the wr850g
[00:32] <Eagle_Fire> since you did the SD mod i told him you'd know what to solder
[00:33] <frop> SD?
[00:33] <frop> nono...no SD mod...
[00:33] <frop> ...only USB/serial one
[00:34] <Eagle_Fire> damn
[00:34] <Eagle_Fire> who was it then
[00:34] <frop> i'd like to make it...but i cant' find SD "port"
[00:35] <Eagle_Fire> well someone did it for the wr850g and i helped them
[00:35] <Eagle_Fire> or maybe you tried it and gave up?
[00:47] <frop> Eagle_Fire never
[00:47] <frop> as i said...no SD port to solder in wrt
[00:54] <Flyashi> Eagle_Fire: what's the URL for your cell phone router page?
[01:02] <Gharza> when will the traker open?
[01:03] <Gharza> i need python
[01:03] <Eagle_Fire> Flyashi, http://devices.natetrue.com/mobileap
[01:03] <[olli]> for wtf you need python on a router?!?!?
[01:04] <Gharza> to make an experiment
[01:04] <Gharza> really
[01:04] <Eagle_Fire> maybe it's to get rid of a kapibara infestation
[01:04] <Gharza> to use gmailfs
[01:04] <J4k3> gaymailfs
[01:04] <[olli]> why do you want to use gmailfs on a router?!?!?!
[01:05] <Gharza> just to load things
[01:05] <[olli]> a router is a router and not a server
[01:05] <Gharza> same as the sd mode
[01:05] Action: [olli] thinks even if the tracker was up there is no python package on it
[01:06] <[olli]> port it yourself if you need it
[01:06] <Gharza> but i need the track to reopen and also that python package
[01:06] Action: gr8w11ne wonders if ollie has a hot key programmed for that phrase
[01:06] <[olli]> hehe
[01:07] <[olli]> for this:
[01:07] <[olli]> please read the fine faq at http://wiki.openwrt.org/Faq
[01:07] <[olli]> i have a hot key
[01:08] <rpm> finally got everything working, i setup ip routing on my end because wireless briding would not work and wds is a waste of bandwidth.
[01:08] <rpm> love the quagga.
[01:09] <[av]bani> o noes
[01:16] <EvilDevil> rpm: how did you set up routing?
[01:16] <EvilDevil> i'm using wds atm, but i might change to routing
[01:21] <rpm> evildevil, i just setup NAT, ospf and set my router ip_forward to 1 and proxy_arp to 1
[01:22] <meriad> rpm- how many machines
[01:22] <meriad> rpm- just use RIP
[01:22] <meriad> rpm- ripv2
[01:23] <bwana> so is their a benefit or detriment to having the a linksys with the integrated CPU switch or the seperate switch chip
[01:24] <EvilDevil> i got 7 machines behind the wrt, and on the other side of the wds there's the router and a notebook
[01:26] <gr8w11ne> bwana: the benefit is having a broadcom switch where you can use robocfg to configure the switch
[01:28] <bwana> so it is better to have the in cpu version?
[02:03] <drayen> [olli], failsafe worked a charm, cheers :)
[02:04] <aton`> does anyone know if vlans are supported by this router: http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Dell/Truemobile2300?highlight=%28dell%29
[02:04] <[olli]> drayen: great. have fun!
[02:05] <drayen> [olli], but now i've hit a new problem - going to do a little ready b4 i run my mouth :) but will probably be back in 10 needing to be hit with the clue stick :)
[02:13] <jakllsch> aton`: the switch isn't capable of VLAN tagging, it has two real ethernet interfaces however
[02:13] <aton`> jakllsch, yes i have configured those 2
[02:14] <aton`> one 192.168.1.33, one 192.168.0.33
[02:14] <aton`> jakllsch, i will get a wrt54gs soon, that should do it... thanks for the info!
[02:16] <aton`> good night
[02:24] <Flyashi> w00t soldered up my serial cable for the wgt... about to program it now....
[02:24] <Flyashi> :)
[02:40] <Flyashi> w00t got a console on my wrt
[02:40] <Flyashi> sorry wgt !!!
[02:40] <Flyashi> but i didn't finish d/ling the firmware image from my home PC that compiled it... so i'm back here for 4 mins redownloading
[02:40] <Flyashi> then back over to the wgt (laptops pwn) to program it
[02:43] <amonkey> anyone home?
[02:43] <Flyashi> amonkey: no
[02:43] <amonkey> that's usually the case
[02:43] <Flyashi> well wrt is always here
[02:43] <amonkey> how are you wrt?
[02:44] <amonkey> why?
[02:44] <Flyashi> nobody usually talks to wrt
[02:44] <Flyashi> wrt: what do you think about flashing the DMZ LED when reflashing is complete?
[02:45] <Flyashi> no... so that the user knows when it's done reflashing
[02:45] <Flyashi> i saw it was a ticket in dev.openwrt.org for kamikaze
[02:45] <Flyashi> wrt: not when it booots...
[02:45] <Flyashi> when installing openwrt
[02:45] <Flyashi> for the first time
[02:45] <Flyashi> it takes a few minutes to write to the flash
[02:46] <Flyashi> reboot too early and it's corrupt
[02:46] <Flyashi> ... a valid point...
[02:46] <Flyashi> but some users reboot too early anyway
[02:46] <amonkey> so, is it normal behaviour not to allow ssh from the wan? and can i allow it? kinda like ra.
[02:48] <amonkey> wrt, are you single?
[02:50] <amonkey> i'm using vi over ssh, and :wq in the command interface isn't quiting.... ?
[02:51] <amonkey> gah
[02:51] <amonkey> i deserved that
[02:51] Action: Flyashi is off to put linux on his wgt :)
[02:51] <amonkey> widgit
[02:52] <Flyashi> any tutorial for madwifi?
[02:54] <Flyashi> oh and do i really need to erase the flash first?
[02:55] <Eagle_Fire> i didn't need to
[02:55] <Eagle_Fire> also madwifi's website has madwifi tutorials, who'd have thought
[02:56] <Eagle_Fire> i'm trying to make wi-viz2 into a genuine SDK-able package
[02:56] <Eagle_Fire> do i really have to add a ./configure script?
[02:56] <Flyashi> Eagle_Fire: probably ;)
[02:56] <Flyashi> i'm going to my wgt ( a bit out of range from here )
[02:56] <Flyashi> i'll be back in a few mins with results :)
[02:56] <Flyashi> later
[02:57] <Eagle_Fire> i just have to figure out how to adapt the makefile to not need one, then
[02:57] <Eagle_Fire> i would also rather the source be contained in the trunk rather than me mucking about with hosting the .tar.gz of the real source
[02:57] <Eagle_Fire> i mean, i would still because gpl and all
[02:58] <Eagle_Fire> or maybe i should let it still download
[02:58] <Eagle_Fire> i'm so conflicted
[03:00] <Eagle_Fire> k
[03:01] <Eagle_Fire> ah, interesting
[03:06] <Flyashi> you need to run a tftpd server on your PC...
[03:06] <Flyashi> woops :)
[03:29] <shadows> yo
[03:29] <strtok> hey, anyone know if it's possible to do port mirroring with openwrt?
[03:29] <strtok> or something similar
[03:29] <strtok> i want to send all traffic to a snort box
[03:30] <shadows> i don't know of what you'd use to do that
[03:32] <minsu> who openwrt hacker?
[03:33] <[mbm]> the ports are actually part of a switch, traffic between the ports isn't even seen by the wrt; you'd have to split each port into a new vlan and monitor that interface
[03:33] <[mbm]> which would probably have a noticable impact on performance
[03:43] <[mbm]> it's only the version 5 ones that you need to look out for
[03:43] <duckdown> Sweet.. Thats what I was hoping
[03:47] <shadows> duckdown: yeah, but the version 2 wrt54gs is where all the gorgeous women are at
[03:50] <Eagle_Fire> wgt634u is the latest sexy router, despite no official openwrt support
[03:51] <duckdown> shadows: i doubt ill be able to find one of those :(
[03:51] <shadows> duckdown: nope, not anymore. ebay perhaps
[03:51] <[mbm]> hot women? yeah.. probably not
[03:51] <duckdown> shadows: Its ok, this v4 one can run OpenWRT and stuff though right?
[03:51] <duckdown> I just want WPA2 and such really
[03:52] <Eagle_Fire> if that's all you want why do you want to switch firmwares
[03:52] <Eagle_Fire> doesn't the Linksys default firmware support that
[03:52] <duckdown> Isn't there stability problems with the router and stuff I've been reading
[03:52] <duckdown> lots of people reccomend flashing to opensource
[03:53] <shadows> oh
[03:55] <[mbm]> installing openwrt is pretty much equivilant to installing a commandline linux on a pc; you really ought to have some background in linux before you attempt to do it
[03:56] <taan> "<Eagle_Fire> wgt634u is the latest sexy router" ???, 634 been out for a long while
[03:56] <shadows> i like that i can split the wifi and the wired lan
[03:56] <shadows> for no particularly good reason
[03:57] <Eagle_Fire> taan, recently development for it has been very good, and it just recently came out refurb with a low low price
[03:58] <Dead-Body> great
[03:58] <duckdown> [mbm]: haha, i run linux
[03:58] <duckdown> exec -o uname -a
[03:58] <duckdown> Linux airfoil 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:58] <Dead-Body> note to self: never keep default ssid name, it ruins your wireless network
[03:58] <[mbm]> a stock kernel? 386? that's pathetic
[03:58] <duckdown> easy
[03:58] <shadows> ...
[03:58] <Dead-Body> when booting another router
[03:58] <Dead-Body> :(
[03:58] <duckdown> nothing wrong with stock kernels
[03:58] <duckdown> i could easy compile a new one but i dont have any need to
[03:58] <[mbm]> duckdown: atleast boot one of teh 686 ones
[03:58] <taan> Eagle_Fire, what is the diff of retail and refurb, i mean i have 634 lieing open, i dont see any fixable components in it
[03:59] <shadows> yeah and you lose security fixes, duh
[03:59] <shadows> s/lieing/laying/
[03:59] <Eagle_Fire> refurb just means the original buyer returned it for some reason (likely couldn't understand it)
[03:59] <Eagle_Fire> and the store couldn't just sell it again, so they get re-bought by the factory and re-tested
[03:59] <shadows> or the AC/DC adapter was missing
[03:59] <Flyashi> w00000<repeats a thousand times>000t
[03:59] <shadows> something like that
[03:59] <taan> shadows, thanks
[03:59] <Flyashi> i got openwrt on my wgt ....
[03:59] <Flyashi> .. .but n o wireless :'(
[03:59] <Eagle_Fire> the factory gives it a clean bill of health and re-sells it at a discount
[04:00] <Eagle_Fire> this discount is passed on to us when we buy it refurbished
[04:01] <Flyashi> i got it to make the ap, but clients that connect receive no packets
[04:02] <Eagle_Fire> fyrewall?
[04:03] <Flyashi> on the client?
[04:03] <Flyashi> maybe...
[04:04] <Flyashi> firewall is off.. no packets.. can't get IP via wireless
[04:06] <Flyashi> hmm... i can't find a tutorial for madwifi AP mode
[04:06] <Dead-Body> if i unscrew the antenna on my router, how well will its signal be?
[04:06] <Flyashi> Dead-Body: my wificar (wrt54g) without antennas works ~10-20 meters
[04:06] <Flyashi> never had a problem with it going out of range
[04:06] <Dead-Body> damn it
[04:06] <Flyashi> it might be more
[04:07] <Flyashi> i never drove it farther -> didn't want to drive it into a wall
[04:07] <Dead-Body> what is i wrap it in foil or something?
[04:07] Action: Flyashi 's vision kinda sucks
[04:07] <Dead-Body> is = if
[04:07] <Dead-Body> i want to eliminate the signal temporarliy
[04:07] <Flyashi> Dead-Body: just disable the wireless...
[04:07] <Flyashi> wrap it in foil might work
[04:07] <Flyashi> put it in a metal drawer
[04:07] <Flyashi> file cabinet or something
[04:07] <Dead-Body> i will, but the router in here connects to that one, and i do not wanna get off the internet
[04:07] <Dead-Body> and i need to openwrt this one
[04:08] <Dead-Body> see what i get for naming one the default name?
[04:08] <[mbm]> Flyashi: submerging it in water also has the effect of disabling the wireless
[04:08] <Flyashi> mbm: salt water especially
[04:08] <myren> j0!
[04:09] <Flyashi> Dead-Body: add a resistor btw antenna and ground?
[04:09] <Flyashi> or capacitor...
[04:09] <Flyashi> hey myren
[04:09] <Flyashi> you wouldn't happen to be running a wgt would you?
[04:09] <[mbm]> Dead-Body: why don't you just turn off the wireless :P
[04:09] <Flyashi> i'm having mad wifi problems
[04:09] <Flyashi> <Flyashi> Dead-Body: just disable the wireless...
[04:10] <Dead-Body> mbm i will once i get into it, i think i am not being clear on the problem...
[04:10] <Flyashi> so.... any madwifi AP tutorials?
[04:10] <Dead-Body> openwrt router ssid = linksys, new router default ssid = linksys
[04:10] <Dead-Body> openwrt client router connects to the new one, knocking me off the internet which i dont wanna do
[04:11] <Flyashi> Dead-Body: get a bunch of 2.4ghz cordless phones
[04:11] <gr8w11ne> Dead-Body: change your ssid on one of them
[04:11] <Dead-Body> so if i wrap it in foil, and unscrew the antenne, i can flash the new one without my other router connecting to it?
[04:11] Action: [mbm] was wondering why anyone would keep the default ssid
[04:11] <Flyashi> Dead-Body: or (temporarily) unplug the new one, change the SSID on the openwrt router.. then plug the enw one back in
[04:11] <Dead-Body> okay, i am just making myself look bad
[04:12] <gr8w11ne> uh huh
[04:12] Action: Flyashi kept the default SSID for a while.. but recently changed it.
[04:12] <Dead-Body> i will take my laptop and new router and drive over to the laundry mat, flash it, change ssid, and come back :P
[04:12] <Flyashi> hey dead-body
[04:12] <Flyashi> put it in the microwave
[04:12] <Flyashi> that blocks all wireless signals
[04:12] <Flyashi> up to like 4-5 ghz
[04:12] <[mbm]> Dead-Body: you're going to tons of trouble to do something that you could do just by using an ethernet cable
[04:12] <Flyashi> probably higher
[04:15] <Eagle_Fire> heh, cygwin doesn't have a "root" user
[04:15] <Eagle_Fire> which prevents the buildroot from building packages
[04:15] <Flyashi> Eagle_Fire: yea i noticed that
[04:15] <Eagle_Fire> shouldn't the script use UID 0 instead of root name
[04:15] <Flyashi> so i set up slackware at home and ssh into that
[04:15] <[mbm]> Eagle_Fire: huh? buildroot shouldn't care
[04:15] <Eagle_Fire> PATH="/cygdrive/c/openwrt/staging_dir_mipsel/usr/bin:/cygdrive/c/openwrt/staging_dir_mipsel/bin:/bin
[04:15] <Eagle_Fire> :/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin" ipkg-build -c -o root -g root /cygdrive/c/openwrt/build_mipsel/wiviz-2.0/
[04:15] <Eagle_Fire> ipkg/wiviz /cygdrive/c/openwrt/bin/packages
[04:15] <Eagle_Fire> tar: root: Invalid owner
[04:15] <Eagle_Fire> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[04:16] <[mbm]> heh, your script; you fix it
[04:16] <Eagle_Fire> i didn't write ipkg-build :)
[04:16] <Eagle_Fire> but i can fix it
[04:17] <[mbm]> oh .. misread that .. umm .. openwrt/rules.mk
[04:18] <Eagle_Fire> --numeric-owner -g 0 -o 0
[04:19] <Eagle_Fire> didn't need --numeric-owner
[04:21] Action: Flyashi wishes he had two network cards on his laptop so that he could stay on IRC and debug the wifi on his wgt at the same time...
[04:22] <Flyashi> oh if only the wireless was working...
[04:22] <Flyashi> oh btw i can
[04:22] <Flyashi> oh btw i can't insmod
[04:22] <Dead_Body> the foil trick works
[04:22] <Eagle_Fire> usually you use a serial console to connect to the WGT634U
[04:22] <Dead_Body> whats default password/username for a linksys? admin/admin?
[04:22] <Eagle_Fire> admin/linksys perhaps
[04:22] <Eagle_Fire> maybe admin/blank
[04:22] <astroid> no username / admin
[04:23] <Eagle_Fire> or rt/fm
[04:23] <[mbm]> Dead_Body: you might want to stop asking newbie questions before you look totally pathetic
[04:23] <Weedy> whats the command to restart the wan with out actually restarting it?
[04:23] <Weedy> like run the hotplug stuff
[04:23] <[mbm]> (ok, more so than you already do)
[04:23] <Eagle_Fire> ifup wan
[04:23] <[mbm]> Weedy: ifup wan
[04:24] <astroid> I'm thinking about switching from dd-wrt to openwrt (too many options to ignore) - can I leave my vram setting as is and upgrade the firmware or am i asking for trouble?
[04:24] <Eagle_Fire> wiviz2 package built, now for testing
[04:25] <Eagle_Fire> astroid, standard linksys settings will translate, but who knows
[04:25] <Dead_Body> the manual says admin/linksys, i am not too dumb, just excited and sort of mad since i got a walmart special
[04:25] <Dead_Body> but i shutup now
[04:25] <[mbm]> astroid: the nvram will be perserved, and for the most part openwrt will honor those settings
[04:25] <Eagle_Fire> any dd-wrt only settings will be disregarded
[04:25] <astroid> good. I was dreading hand bombing in the vram settings.
[04:25] <Flyashi> wireless problem: http://pastebin.com/521772
[04:26] <Eagle_Fire> did you check dmesg for why it really didn't insert
[04:26] <Flyashi> ... no ... be right back
[04:27] Action: Flyashi curses the sole network card and non-working wireless
[04:27] <Eagle_Fire> also, tail -f /proc/kmsg & will make dmesg things output onto your terminal
[04:27] <Flyashi> k thanks
[04:27] <Eagle_Fire> also, what's wrong with your laptop wireless?
[04:27] <Eagle_Fire> no PC card either?
[04:27] Action: Weedy_ sighs
[04:27] <Weedy_> THAT RESTARTED THE WAN
[04:27] <[mbm]> Eagle_Fire: kmsg gets logged to syslog .. logread will show it
[04:28] <Eagle_Fire> logread -f & then
[04:28] <[mbm]> -f only shows new output, skippign any existing log entries
[04:31] <Weedy_> hmm
[04:31] <Weedy_> I need a better way of doing this
[04:32] <[mbm]> Weedy: what exactly are you trying to do? you said you wanted to restart the wan
[04:36] <Weedy_> [mbm], well I wanted to update the qos changes I made with out restarting the WAN cause im on dsl now
[04:37] <Weedy_> wan restart = ip change
[04:37] <F|yashi> proc/kmsg is null... dmesg gives the same as on http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=18362
[04:37] <[mbm]> F|yashi: and the problem is?
[04:38] <F|yashi> it said "invalid argument" ... do i have to type something other than "insmod wlan_scan_ap" ?
[04:38] <F|yashi> mbm: no wireless
[04:38] <F|yashi> it comes up, i can connect, but i get no packets
[04:38] <F|yashi> so no IP
[04:38] <Weedy_> and I havnt found I better way to do my iptables ATM: "iptables -t nat -A prerouting_rule -p tcp -d weedy.ath.cx ..." but since that would need to be run every ipchange im trying to figure out a better way, im thinking NVRAM variable
[04:38] <F|yashi> woa wtf is up with my nick... oh yea shouldn't have just pulled the ethernet cable ;)
[04:38] <[mbm]> F|yashi: add it to br0 or reconfigure dnsmasq ro serve dhcp over that interface
[04:38] <shadows> Weedy_: er?
[04:39] <F|yashi> mbm: i might try that... thanks...
[04:40] <Weedy> shadows, im trying to ip change proof my firewall rules
[04:40] <Weedy> since with dsl my ip changes allot now
[04:41] <shadows> My mom shows me something gross everytime i eat
[04:41] <Weedy> ....
[04:41] <Weedy> gtfo
[04:41] <shadows> like "hey son, i bruised my leg, see?"
[04:41] Action: shadows winces
[04:41] <shadows> "no mom, i'm eating. thanks."
[04:41] <Eagle_Fire> hmm, the wi-viz 2 package compresses really well
[04:41] <[mbm]> Weedy: ACTION=ifup INTERFACE= PROTO= hotplug iface .. just fill in values for interface and proto
[04:41] <Eagle_Fire> does jffs2 compress between files?
[04:42] <[mbm]> Eagle_Fire: don't think so
[04:42] Action: F|yashi is off to play with /etc/config/network ;)
[04:42] <Eagle_Fire> hmm
[04:42] <Eagle_Fire> checking to see if it's worth the trouble
[04:43] <Weedy> [mbm], yeah that was it
[04:43] <amonkey> so i put my wrt in bridge mode, and it's not responding to anything. on a fun note, took me about 5 minutes to realize it had latched onto my neighbors wifi and bridged that.
[04:43] <Eagle_Fire> heh, most of the compression happens on the JS file anwyay
[04:43] <Eagle_Fire> so jffs2 won't take issue with it
[04:43] <amonkey> failsafe mode still bridges me to my neighbor's 192.168.1.1, not my wrt. any tips?
[04:44] <Eagle_Fire> tin foil?
[04:44] <[mbm]> amonkey: change your ssids?
[04:44] <shadows> amonkey: thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wifi
[04:45] <amonkey> i can't get to the wrt, it doesn't have an ip (i think)
[04:45] <amonkey> and i didn't set the ssid
[04:45] <amonkey> it latched itself (it is a linksys, 6 though, maybe preset)
[04:45] <amonkey> i was very suprised when it did it
[04:45] <[mbm]> if you're in failsafe, the ip will be forced to 192.168.1.1
[04:45] <amonkey> that's what i thought, but when i goto that, i get my neighbors, which means it's still briding
[04:46] <Eagle_Fire> i wonder if the arp cache just needs to be flushed
[04:46] <amonkey> i release/renewed the ip, got my neighbor's dhcp server
[04:47] <Eagle_Fire> unscrew antennas and cover with tinfoil to defeat neighbor wireless
[04:47] <[mbm]> amonkey: you should be directly connected to the wrt via ethernet cable while in failsafe
[04:48] <amonkey> i am
[04:48] <amonkey> over the switch
[04:48] <amonkey> and it's acting like the cable is going directly to their network (which is bridged mode to a tea)
[04:49] <[mbm]> migth be still bridged byt I'm surprised that you can't get to the wrt itself
[04:50] <amonkey> me to!
[04:50] <amonkey> their bef11 (i think that's the model) comes up when i accecss 192.168.1.1
[04:50] <amonkey> maybe no signal will let failsafe work
[04:50] <[mbm]> flush the arp cache
[04:51] <amonkey> how does one do that? the most i've done with arp is poisin it
[04:51] <[mbm]> :P
[04:51] <Eagle_Fire> :)
[04:52] <Weedy> [mbm], do you have dsl?
[04:52] Action: [mbm] acts terribly surprised by teh fact amonkey is still using the default ssid ... probably using teh browser to access the router and getting a cached copy of the page too :P
[04:52] <[mbm]> Weedy: nope
[04:53] <Dead_Body> heh, i had to restore to factory defaults by holding the reset button, since it was a returned router
[04:53] <Dead_Body> :(
[04:53] <amonkey> mbm, it's not connecting to my network
[04:53] <amonkey> my network is different
[04:53] <amonkey> has a different ssid rather
[04:54] <amonkey> my wrt (seperate from my network) decided latching onto my neighbors linksys network sounds like a good idea
[04:54] <ou> hi, anyone knows which firmware i should use for WRT54GX v1? openwrt-brcm-2.4-squashfs.trx?
[04:54] <[mbm]> amonkey: it only connects to the ssid you specify, and I have no idea why you'd specify the default ssid
[04:55] <[mbm]> ou: yes, but openwrt doesn't have wireless support for the gx
[04:56] <amonkey> mbm, i didn't specifiy it
[04:56] <amonkey> i swear
[04:56] <ou> [mbm]: there are 4 dirs in http://downloads.openwrt.org/whiterussian/rc4/ which one should i use? default?
[04:56] <[mbm]> ou: it's explained in the documentation, the faq and several other places
[04:57] <Weedy> ok ATM I use "iptables -t nat -A prerouting_rule -d <ddns link> -p tcp -m multiport --dports <ports> -j DNAT --to <ip>" for port fwding, the problem is when my ip changes (im on dsl) S45firewall has to be rerun
[04:57] <amonkey> i'm used to networks and linux, just not OpenWRT, i'm as suprised as you
[04:57] <Weedy> can anyone give me a better way to do it?
[04:57] <ou> [mbm]:thanks, gx does not support wireless means i cannot use wireless with openwrt?
[04:57] <[mbm]> Weedy: so use -i instead of -d
[04:57] <amonkey> and i got to it over telnet after take of the antennae, weird as that is
[04:58] <Weedy> [mbm], didn't you tell me that breaks snat rules?
[04:58] <[mbm]> ou: correct (and blatently obvious)
[04:59] <[mbm]> Weedy: I never said that
[04:59] <Weedy> hmm
[04:59] <Weedy> ok
[04:59] <[mbm]> Weedy: the examples I give in firewall.user even use -i
[05:00] <[mbm]> the only thing is really breaks is the ability of the local network to use the dnat rules
[05:00] <ou> [mbm]:do you know how to edit the config file of linksys official firmware?
[05:00] <[mbm]> ou: there are no config files .. you need to do some research
[05:00] <Weedy> [mbm], which I need
[05:01] <ou> [mbm]:i mean the settings backup file sorry
[05:01] <[mbm]> Weedy: well, if you insist on using -d then use hotplug so when the ip changes it'll run the firewall again
[05:01] <[mbm]> ou: this isn't the place to discuss the linksys firmware; go download the source, it's on their damn website
[05:02] <Weedy> [mbm], well I don't insist on using -d it's just the only option, I need the local network to use the dnat rules
[05:02] <Eagle_Fire> the "reset to defaults" settings are stored in the CFE, aren't they
[05:04] <[mbm]> Weedy: there's a certain lack of precision in the iptables syntax that will prevent you from easily doing what you've asked
[05:04] <ou> [mbm]:thank you for helping me, i dont know why my router is not stable
[05:04] <[mbm]> Eagle_Fire: depends on which reset to defaults you're talking about
[05:05] <Eagle_Fire> i suppose it does
[05:05] <[mbm]> after teh firmware is loaded, any reset to defaults is handled by the firmware, and generally doesn't erase the previous settings
[05:06] <[mbm]> only adds/overwrites a set of predefined variables
[05:07] <[mbm]> on some models you can get cfe to reset to defaults, which actually will erase nvram and populate it with variables from cfe
[05:10] <ou> anoone knows what ack mode is?
[05:10] <Weedy_> [mbm], took your advice, added it to the /etc/hotplug.d/iface/15-ez-ipupdate so it should be bomb proof now
[05:10] <Weedy_> ddns update and firewall right after
[05:12] <[mbm]> seems like ez-ipupdate is overkill; you already know at that point that your ip has changed, all you need to do is wget a dyndns address to update your ip
[05:12] <iq|tablet> Hi, I just did a firstboot and now all is gone :)
[05:12] <iq|tablet> no IP address, no telnet, no ping. nothing at all
[05:13] <iq> any help please
[05:13] <[mbm]> iq: what did you do, why, and what did you expect?
[05:14] <iq> [mbm], was out of space. expected it to format the filesystem
[05:14] Action: z3ro awake
[05:14] <[mbm]> iq: it did.
[05:14] <iq> [mbm], oh... so i lose everything?
[05:15] <amonkey> so, instead of commit, is there a way to undo all the stuff you've done in nvram since the last commit?
[05:15] <amonkey> oh
[05:15] <amonkey> reboot
[05:15] <amonkey> i ge tit
[05:15] <iq> I thought ROM area would stay
[05:15] <[mbm]> iq: no, just reverts the filesystem back to the initally flashed state
[05:15] <[mbm]> iq: it does.
[05:16] <iq> [mbm], initially flashed state?
[05:16] <astroid> will holding the reset button while power cycling reset the vram to default?
[05:16] <[mbm]> astroid: depends entirely on the model and revision
[05:16] <[mbm]> iq: that's what I said
[05:17] <iq> [mbm], yeah... actually I couldn't understand what it means :)
[05:17] <iq> [mbm], anyways, what shall I do now? could u give a starting point
[05:18] <[mbm]> iq: the squashfs firmware splits the flash into two filesystems, a readonly filesystem (squashfs) and a writable filesystem (jffs2) .. the firmware image only contains the squashfs filesystem, the firstboot script is responsible for formatting and creating the jffs2 filesystem; hence runnign firstboot returns you to teh same state as if you'd just reflashed
[05:20] <iq> [mbm], i c... maybe I messed up something here :( ...I'm not even getting an IP address. can't even ping it when I assign a static IP to client.
[05:20] <[mbm]> iq: then you did something else besides firstboot
[05:20] <gr8w11ne> nvram settings persist tho
[05:21] Action: [mbm] points to the spiffy troubleshooting page that blatently gets ignored
[05:21] <iq> [mbm], I did firstboot and then rebooted the router. and it never came back up. After that unplugged the router few times.
[05:22] <[mbm]> iq: you should let it boot up
[05:24] <iq> left most LED keeps blinking for a while and then next LED lights up for couple of seconds. And then turns off and left most starts blinking again. Like maybe its rebooting again and again... I'm not sure whats happening though
[05:24] <[mbm]> iq: the leds actually have labels
[05:25] <iq> LEDC8 keeps blinking for 4 seconds, then LEDC7 turns on for 2 seconds and stays on for 2 seconds. And then LEDC8 starts blinking again and they continue doing this
[05:26] Action: [mbm] reminds iq to actually look at the fscking case .. power dmz, wlan ...
[05:26] <iq> sorry
[05:26] <Eagle_Fire> wow, lots of laptops on late at night
[05:27] <Eagle_Fire> how do i negate a bash expression
[05:27] <Eagle_Fire> like if i wanted the opposite of [ -x /usr/sbin/wiviz2 ]
[05:27] <shadows> um
[05:27] <shadows> with a bang?
[05:27] <shadows> [ ! -x ... ]
[05:27] <shadows> it doesn't work in ash last i checked
[05:27] <[mbm]> you'll need to escape the !
[05:28] <shadows> escape the '!' ?
[05:28] <[mbm]> [ \! -x ... ]
[05:28] <Eagle_Fire> roger that
[05:28] <Eagle_Fire> for some reason the ipkg doesn't set the permissions right
[05:28] <iq> Power LED keeps blinking for 4 seconds, then DMZ turns on for 2 seconds and then Power LED starts blinking again.
[05:28] <shadows> what is iq going on about
[05:28] <[mbm]> otherwise the ! is treated as a special character which looks for similar commands in your commandline history
[05:28] <Eagle_Fire> how useful
[05:29] <[mbm]> shadows: *shrug* whatever it is he's horrible at explaining it
[05:29] <shadows> [mbm]: oh! you are referring to a bash commandline
[05:29] <iq> shadows, guess I messed up my wrt54g v4
[05:29] <iq> wrt54gs v4
[05:29] <[mbm]> iq: just tftp a new firmware
[05:29] <shadows> iq: i'm sorry?
[05:29] <iq> [mbm], can I tftp if I can not ping?
[05:29] <shadows> i don't understand what you're saying about the LEDs
[05:29] <[mbm]> iq: there's a whiole troubleshooting page which I mentioned 20 minutes ago
[05:30] <Eagle_Fire> we should have a paid support tier, where people who really really want help can pay for it
[05:30] <iq> [mbm], yes - there are very good documentations availbl. I've read most of them . was here just to get a good starting point.
[05:30] <Eagle_Fire> here's not where to start
[05:30] <shadows> Eagle_Fire: you really should charge psychiatric rates
[05:30] <Eagle_Fire> it's where to go when you've exhausted the rest
[05:31] <shadows> iq: the trouble is there's like a bazillion openwrt users, and only one [mbm]
[05:31] <iq> Eagle_Fire, i wasn't aware of this rule
[05:31] <iq> [mbm], thanks - I'll go read the troubleshooting page now
[05:31] <[mbm]> shadows: there's only a few of me
[05:31] <Eagle_Fire> best of luck, iq
[05:32] <iq> one last question - can I tftp if i can not ping?
[05:32] <[mbm]> iq: you'll find it online at 192.168.1.1 (ping and tftp only) tftp the firmware back and it'll be just fine
[05:38] <Eagle_Fire> [mbm], so what's the deal with the tracker? is it forever gone?
[05:41] <Eagle_Fire> perhaps it's taboo to talk about it?
[05:58] <Eagle_Fire> wi-viz 2 package --> http://devices.natetrue.com/wiviz2/wiviz_2.0-1_mipsel.ipk
[05:58] <Eagle_Fire> source http://devices.natetrue.com/wiviz2/wiviz-2.0.tar.gz
[05:59] <Eagle_Fire> who wants to test it with me?
[05:59] <Dead_Body> whats it do?
[05:59] <Eagle_Fire> demo http://devices.natetrue.com/wiviz2/wiviz2.html
[06:01] <shadows> i'm not sure what it does
[06:01] <shadows> so my question is the same as Dead_Body
[06:01] <Eagle_Fire> uses monitor mode to show you access points around and whoever is connected to them
[06:01] <Eagle_Fire> as well as non-connected clients
[06:02] <shadows> oh
[06:02] <shadows> using erm, signal strength as a distance indicator?
[06:02] <Eagle_Fire> nope, using a hierarchichal layout strategy
[06:03] <Eagle_Fire> anyways i'm due for a nap, let me know what you think
[06:06] <Dead_Body> this is the fun part, web interface uploading the openwrt...
[06:08] <Dead_Body> success!
[06:37] <[mbm]> .
[06:38] <shadows> ..
[06:38] <synth> .. . ...
[06:39] <synth> perl amazes me.
[06:39] <shadows> like a well groomed poodle
[06:42] <taan> Eagle_Fire, what does it do ? http://devices.natetrue.com/wiviz2/wiviz2.html
[06:53] <Flyashi> woot got the wireless up... pretty simple... just added Geoff's commands from http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=18362 to S70wifi in /etc/init.d .. and added ath0 to br0 - voila! working wifi
[06:54] <Flyashi> now... another question: how can i change the default MAC address
[06:54] <Flyashi> not the failsafe.. i could change the file but in failsafe it only reads from squashfs which is read-only
[07:00] <Flyashi> ... am i still on?
[07:00] <Flyashi> hey Dead_Body
[07:01] <Dead_Body> no
[07:01] <Flyashi> wrt: no but i can read you
[07:01] <auro_> (=
[07:01] <Flyashi> anyway... dead_body do you have a wrt?
[07:02] <Dead_Body> i have three :P
[07:02] <Flyashi> sorry i meant wgt - netgear
[07:02] <Dead_Body> and i make myself look like a retard :P
[07:02] <Dead_Body> wgt614 is the one, correct?
[07:02] <Flyashi> Dead_Body: dont worry
[07:02] <Flyashi> wgt634
[07:02] <Flyashi> USB host, 8/32.. atheros mini-pci
[07:02] <Flyashi> i just got openwrt on it a few hours ago
[07:02] <Dead_Body> i have a wgt, i think its 614...
[07:02] <Flyashi> set up the wifi... but i can't figure out how to change the MAC
[07:03] <Flyashi> Dead_Body: no openwrt for that yet.. i checked.. my roommate has one
[07:03] <Dead_Body> damn
[07:03] <Dead_Body> mine is on loan anyway
[07:03] <Flyashi> at the dorms, we're mac address filtered so i have to set the mac on the router to my laptop's mac before I can get a connection
[07:03] <Dead_Body> ahh i see
[07:03] <Flyashi> Dead_Body: sell a wrt and get a wgt
[07:03] <Dead_Body> i like my wrt's
[07:03] <Flyashi> it's worth it !
[07:03] <Dead_Body> what makes it better?
[07:04] <Flyashi> USB host
[07:04] <Flyashi> 8MB flash 32MB ram
[07:04] <Flyashi> Atheros mini-pci
[07:04] <Flyashi> smaller form factor
[07:04] <Dead_Body> okay, im buying right now
[07:04] <Flyashi> Dead_Body: what about food money?
[07:04] <russell> downside: have to hack different antennas.
[07:04] <Dead_Body> i spent it on books :P
[07:04] <Flyashi> yea it only has 1 antenna
[07:04] <Flyashi> Dead_Body: me and a friend split
[07:04] <minsu> hmm
[07:04] <Flyashi> cuz we have almost all same classes
[07:05] <Dead_Body> split the cost of books?
[07:05] <minsu> class mate?
[07:05] <Dead_Body> ahh yeah
[07:05] <Flyashi> yea btw 2 ppl
[07:05] <Flyashi> minsu: yea
[07:05] <Dead_Body> i did the same, with my wife
[07:05] <Dead_Body> but only one class :P
[07:05] <Flyashi> dare I ask which class?
[07:05] <Dead_Body> psychology :P
[07:05] <minsu> Flyashi you cooper union univ?
[07:05] <Flyashi> minsu: yea how'd you guess? you WHOIS me?
[07:06] <minsu> i knou hard trainning school of the world.
[07:06] <minsu> hehe.
[07:07] <Flyashi> i'm glad you think it's a good school.. now can you convince my 'rents of that?
[07:07] <Dead_Body> i have a netgeat mr814 that i use for a 'base'
[07:07] <Dead_Body> it connects to the modem, everything else connects to it, since its 11mbps POS
[07:07] Action: Dead_Body is engineering student :D
[07:07] <Flyashi> yea i have my crappy BEFSR41v1 at home as "base"
[07:07] Action: Flyashi is also engineering student :D
[07:08] <Dead_Body> elite, what branch?
[07:08] <Flyashi> BE but my roomate wants me to switch to EE
[07:08] <Flyashi> where BE -> bachelor of engineerinog
[07:08] Action: Dead_Body double major in computer engineering/computer science
[07:08] <Flyashi> engineering* aka IDE
[07:08] <Flyashi> IDE -> interdisciplinary
[07:08] <Dead_Body> i see
[07:08] Action: Flyashi loves comp sci but doesn't want to get sucked into that vortez
[07:08] <Flyashi> vortx*
[07:08] <Flyashi> vortex* crappy laptop keyboard
[07:09] <Dead_Body> heheh
[07:09] <minsu> Flyashi, you japanese? your name like from japan ..
[07:10] <Flyashi> minsu: no, my first name is Yasha and i grew up in Fair Lawn, NJ: FL Yashi
[07:10] <Flyashi> i have heard of the inu-yasha cartoons
[07:10] <Dead_Body> my laptop is pimped out, got the monitor connected, keyboard/mouse connected, 7 usb devices connected :P
[07:10] <Flyashi> so google for "yasha" gets buried with those
[07:10] <Dead_Body> need to make it mobile again
[07:10] <Flyashi> Dead_Body: i dont have room for a monitor
[07:10] <Flyashi> when my roomate is away, i use his
[07:10] <Flyashi> 20" Dell 2005fpw
[07:11] <Dead_Body> yeah, you live in dorm too...is it the cramped kind or the cool apartment kind?
[07:11] <Flyashi> i have external usb: mouse, kbd, hard drive, bluetooth, 2 webcams, wireless gamepad, and .. that's it i guess...
[07:11] <minsu> Flyashi, ah, sorry, you white american?
[07:11] <Flyashi> Dead_Body: apartment style. better than columbia's crappy system with one bathroom per floor
[07:11] <Flyashi> minsu: 'fraid so ;)
[07:12] <Dead_Body> i remember freshmen year in the one-rooms, yeah like that, one bathroom per floor :(
[07:12] <Dead_Body> 5 semesters into the college thing now :D
[07:12] <Flyashi> we have our own mini-kitchen, living room-ish-thing, and bathroom with FULL BATH! only 1 in 4 rooms has that
[07:12] <Flyashi> Dead_Body: where so?
[07:13] <Dead_Body> an assortment of schools :P
[07:13] <Dead_Body> nashville state community college, middle tennessee state university, tennessee technological university
[07:13] <Flyashi> oh... that's quite an assortment
[07:13] <Dead_Body> whats next? mit? :P
[07:13] <Flyashi> Dead_Body: transfer to cooper :)
[07:13] <Dead_Body> what state?
[07:13] <Flyashi> NYC
[07:14] <Flyashi> across the street from NYU. my roomate's router used to have an SSID of "NYU Sucks" and he put it on the window - their dorms are literally across the street
[07:14] <Dead_Body> heh
[07:14] <Dead_Body> thats funny
[07:14] <Flyashi> we put up drafting tape on the windows that says "HI" and so do they
[07:15] <Dead_Body> me and my wife are staying in tennessee
[07:15] <Dead_Body> out of state tuition sucks man
[07:16] <Flyashi> full tuition scholarship for all students ==))))
[07:16] <Dead_Body> how is that?
[07:16] <Flyashi> :) =D 8) :-D
[07:16] <Flyashi> Peter Cooper was a nice (rich) guy
[07:16] <Flyashi> dorms are a bitch, but they everywhere
[07:16] <Dead_Body> is it a good school?
[07:16] <Dead_Body> thats why i changed schools
[07:16] <Dead_Body> so many times :P
[07:16] <Flyashi> #3 nationally in engineering for schols that dont have a PhD program
[07:17] <Dead_Body> and its free for everyone? do you get a nice refund?
[07:17] <Flyashi> yup - $13,xxx for tuition per semester. i have a nice "scholarship: -$13,xxx" on the bill :)
[07:18] <Dead_Body> how much is it per semester? i get a $1400 check in a few days :D
[07:18] <Dead_Body> i dont understand your previous statement
[07:18] <auro_> how I can analyze 802.11 packets,
[07:18] <[mbm]> .
[07:18] <auro_> which send my openwrt ?
[07:18] <RazorJack> Hey Guys, I took apart my usb data cell phone cable for a nokia 36xx series
[07:19] <auro_> tcpdump doesn`t work with 802.11 :(
[07:19] <RazorJack> green goes to pin 10
[07:19] <RazorJack> white to 3
[07:19] <Wrtweeter> i got a question, When you use the "wl monitor" command, it created a Prism0 interface, what exactly is this interface it creates? Is it realy a prism chipset, with the available packet injection capabalitites?
[07:19] <RazorJack> and blue to 2
[07:19] <Dead_Body> wait, think about it for a second, gotta change wireless networks :D
[07:19] <RazorJack> does that mean white and blue are rx/tx and green is gnd?
[07:19] <J4k3> auro: yes it does, just load the 802.11 dataset thingie.
[07:19] <auro_> airodump don`t see send packets
[07:19] <[mbm]> Wrtweeter: the prism was the first chip to have monitoring capabilities, most linux sniffing apps were written for the prism, so the broadcom driver emulates a prism card
[07:20] <Wrtweeter> ic, so the emulation is only good for monitor, not injection
[07:20] <[mbm]> Wrtweeter: right (atleast I haven't heard of anyone getting injection working)
[07:20] <auro_> J4k3, can oyu say about it in more details ?:)
[07:20] <Flyashi> mbm: LIAR! i have a WPC54g pcmcia card in my laptop, and it's not prism - hostap won't work with it!
[07:20] <Flyashi> it's broadcom based
[07:21] <[mbm]> Flyashi: did you read the question ? :P
[07:21] <Flyashi> now that there's ppl here.. how do I change my MAC?
[07:21] <Flyashi> mbm: "broadcom driver emulates prism cards"
[07:21] <Flyashi> not on windows
[07:21] <RazorJack> Sorry, I was wrong, green is 10, white is 3, blue is 6.... that sound right? anybody? I dont wanna blow my wrt54g.
[07:22] <[mbm]> Flyashi: it does -- on the wrt54g we're talking about, this is #openwrt, not #windows; smartass
[07:22] <Flyashi> RazorJack: depends on which cable you use
[07:22] <RazorJack> nokia 36xx
[07:22] <[mbm]> Flyashi: and jsut for that I'm not going to answer your question on mac addresses
[07:22] <RazorJack> Flyashi; trying to get scanner to work :P
[07:22] <Flyashi> mbm: sorry... i'm just sad that i can't run it without getting native linux on this lappie... oh well
[07:22] <Flyashi> mbm: i'm sorry! i'm sorry! i 'll get linux on it this summer!
[07:23] <Wrtweeter> Anyone have any expirence with FairuzaWRT
[07:23] <Flyashi> RazorJack: i used a buzzer + battery + (insert cable here) to test which pin was which
[07:24] <[mbm]> Wrtweeter: *cough* you're in openwrt
[07:24] <Flyashi> but i was building my own cable with the max233.. you might have to try something else
[07:24] <Flyashi> (mbm isn't very happy about off-topic comments today)
[07:24] <Wrtweeter> ya i know, just wondering if anoyne had comments on the tools that we added for recon and scanning
[07:24] <[mbm]> Flyashi: yep, all because of what you said earlier
[07:25] <Wrtweeter> we=were
[07:25] <Flyashi> ok, you're right, i shouldn't have said it. I was wrong. I apologize.
[07:25] <Flyashi> now can we get on good terms? please?
[07:25] <[mbm]> Flyashi: too late, and it's all your fault
[07:25] <Flyashi> :'(
[07:25] <Dead-Body> lets all get a bong!
[07:27] <Weedy> how do I output a msg to the syslog?
[07:27] <[mbm]> logger
[07:28] <RazorJack> http://www.inetguy.ca/nokia36xusb.jpg
[07:28] <RazorJack> Can someone look at that please?
[07:28] <[mbm]> RazorJack: it's trial an error or google
[07:28] <Flyashi> [mbm]: no help from you today for ANYONE now, huh?
[07:28] <RazorJack> mbm, yes, but my first trial I would like to be educated... google is turning up nothing on this cable.
[07:29] <[mbm]> Flyashi: told you, you screwed it up; I'm pissed. you're lucky I'm not in a bad mood or I'd have banned your ass
[07:29] <Flyashi> [mbm]: thank you for your restraint, o great openwrt-maker!
[07:30] <F|yashi> hey guys.. just wondering.. how can I change the MAC of my router?
[07:30] <RazorJack> hehe
[07:30] <RazorJack> I know this one!
[07:31] <RazorJack> wait, this a trick question?
[07:31] <RazorJack> http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs
[07:31] <F|yashi> no.. i didn't see anything there.. thanks RazorJack
[07:32] <RazorJack> im looking 1 sec
[07:32] <[mbm]> RazorJack: http://openwrt.org/logs/openwrt.log.20060117 .. start reading around [21:00]
[07:33] <Dead-Body> pelicans!
[07:33] <Weedy> && is conditional right?
[07:34] <[mbm]> Weedy: yep.
[07:34] <Weedy> the previous command has to finsh successfully?
[07:34] <RazorJack> wan_hwaddr=
[07:34] <RazorJack> wl0_hwaddr=
[07:34] <RazorJack> lan_hwaddr=
[07:34] <Weedy> good
[07:34] <RazorJack> believe thats what you need
[07:34] <F|yashi> RazorJack: thanks :)
[07:34] <RazorJack> usr/sbin/nvram set wan_hwaddr='00:AA:BB:CC:DD:EE'
[07:34] <RazorJack> /usr/sbin/nvram commit
[07:34] Action: [mbm] believes F|yashi needs to RTFM
[07:35] Action: RazorJack agrees
[07:35] <RazorJack> I fuond those answers from it
[07:35] <F|yashi> [mbm] is correct.. but i couldn't find it on the wiki...
[07:35] <Weedy> wth F|yashi is still here
[07:38] <RazorJack> bah, so hard to find pinouts for the nokia 3620
[07:56] <myren> J4k3: *poke*
[07:56] <myren> wow, responsive as hella
[07:56] <J4k3> yes
[07:56] <myren> would you know if latest kamikazee is running on the WGT's still?
[07:56] <myren> i heard some heresay it was
[07:57] <Flyashi> myren: i'm running the latest kamikaze on a wgt right now :)
[07:57] <myren> hot damn thats sweet
[07:58] <Flyashi> yup... took a bit, mosly soldering the serial cable, getting wifi up, and now getting the hardware address changed
[07:58] <Flyashi> but it's worth it ! small form factor, 8/32 flash/ram, usb host...
[07:59] <myren> definately my favorite hardware specs by far
[07:59] <myren> xcept the no antenna jack detail
[07:59] <J4k3> it compiled for me a few days ago
[07:59] <J4k3> its not hard to solder on a pigtail
[07:59] <myren> one of these days i'm gonna get some LMR-400 and solder on a nice N pigtail
[08:00] <Flyashi> myren: i see a connector for another antenna on the atheros daugherboard
[08:00] <myren> i still havent cracked the shell. the photos i saw showed that though. looks like a mildly intimidating solder job...
[08:00] <myren> just makes me wish i still had a metcal soldering rig
[08:01] <Flyashi> myren: 4 screws. the connector seems pretty exposed...
[08:04] <myren> that socket is untouchable
[08:04] <myren> not a chance
[08:05] <J4k3> myren: I've done about 5 resolders so far, no problem
[08:05] <J4k3> using a weller 25 watt pencil with a smallish tip
[08:05] <myren> i think it's a diversity with only one antenna attached
[08:05] <J4k3> and fine 60/40 solder
[08:05] <J4k3> no, theres an antenna built onto the board
[08:05] <J4k3> on the 'b' side
[08:06] <myren> right. there's a socket and two pads also on the m-pci card
[08:06] <myren> those two pads might actually be the secondary antenna, not the socket
[08:07] <myren> i cant figure out what that socket actually is
[08:07] <myren> wrt, are you a bot?
[08:07] <myren> just checking
[08:07] <myren> your response time is amazing
[08:07] <HackerMaster> haha :)
[08:08] <HackerMaster> myren: this is a bot
[08:08] <mik_> myren: whats this wgt you are talking about?
[08:08] <Flyashi> mik_: wgt634u, netgear
[08:08] <mik_> from what i read above it looks like a pretty piece of hardware
[08:08] <Flyashi> 8MB flash 32MB ram, usb host, atheros mini-pci
[08:08] <Flyashi> it is
[08:08] <mik_> hui
[08:08] <mik_> nice :)
[08:09] <mik_> how much does it cost? (and where?)
[08:09] <myren> damn this dough is not rising.
[08:09] <Flyashi> mik_ $40 justdeals.com, $30 ebay if you get it cheap
[08:09] <Flyashi> justdeals.org sorry
[08:09] <myren> really, $40 justdeals? sweet. i was doing $35 on ebay
[08:09] <mik_> over here: 84eur :/
[08:10] <Flyashi> mik: that's new.. i got refurbed
[08:10] <mik_> ok
[08:10] <Flyashi> well i got class soon.. might want to get some sleep in before that... tty tomorow! and thanks for all the help
[08:10] <myren> hey, thank you for your help. till again
[08:10] <mik_> thx
[08:11] <myren> J4k3: any idea what that socket thing is next to the antenna wire on the wgt?
[08:11] <J4k3> myren: its a "test port", I can't find a mating plug for it
[08:12] Action: myren nods
[08:12] <myren> yeah it doesnt look like it has anything that could garner enough friction to serve as an actual jack
[08:13] <J4k3> agreed
[08:26] <Kury> I'm looking at buying a wrt router... and I was wondering how I should determine wether or not I need the 54g or 54gs?
[08:27] <myren> openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
[08:27] <myren> if you're buying a new unit, you'll need a 54gl, the g's and the gs's can no longer run linux
[08:28] <Kury> unless I get an older one... my point is.. though.. how should I choose witch one would be better for my needs a G or GS?
[08:29] <[mbm]> buy the best hardware you can afford; use the TableOfHardware to figure out what's supported
[08:30] <myren> the difference is flash & ram; how many programs you can fit on a unit's storage and how many running programs your memory can support
[08:31] <myren> unless you knwo you have an intensive task or you know you're going to want to try a bunch of things at once, there's no real advantage to the GS. its just more headroom.
[08:32] <J4k3> linksys sucks... the wr850g is everything the wrt54g ever was, for just about half the price.
[08:32] <J4k3> and the gs gets stomped by the wgt634u
[08:34] <myren> mainly the wr850g just looks a hella lot cooler
[08:39] <mrmr> lo
[08:40] <mrmr> with: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i ppp0 --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[08:40] <mrmr> isn't webserver accessible from the wan?
[08:40] <auro_> How to capture 802.11 packets? kismet crashed with segfault :(
[08:40] <mrmr> auro_: i run kismet smootly
[08:40] <[mbm]> mrmr: read /etc/firewall.user
[08:40] <auro_> Error opening terminal: xterm-debian.
[08:40] <auro_> [1] + Segmentation fault ${BIN}/kismet_server --silent ${server}
[08:41] <mrmr> [mbm]: i've read it...but i don't find it
[08:41] <mrmr> :P
[08:41] <auro_> root@OpenWrt:~# ipkg list | grep kismet
[08:41] <auro_> kismet - 2005-08-R1-1 -
[08:41] <auro_> kismet-client - 2005-08-R1-1 -
[08:41] <auro_> kismet-server - 2005-08-R1-1 -
[08:42] <[mbm]> mrmr: you uncomment the lines and run the firewall again
[08:42] <auro_> I need run `kismet` or do some commands ?
[08:42] <mrmr> [mbm]: yeah...i was missing prerouting rule
[08:42] <[mbm]> mrmr: you're missing more than that
[08:42] <Kury> j4k3: the wgt634u says its a work in progress though..
[08:43] <J4k3> kury: its not supported by a release yet, but it *does* work.
[08:44] <mrmr> [mbm]: like what?
[08:44] <[mbm]> mrmr: meaning you should actually use firewall.user, as intended
[08:44] <mrmr> [mbm]: ok, i know, it was just a quiick hack
[08:59] <Kaloz> .
[09:00] <z3ro> .
[09:00] <z3ro> (quiet...)
[09:01] <z3ro> the channel dosen't seem very active, maybe it's the timezones.
[09:01] Action: J4k3 rubs his new rb532
[09:02] <J4k3> Kaloz: took a nearby lightning hit to the tower.
[09:02] <Kury> J4k3: If I buy a WGT634U can I hook more than one USB drive to it?
[09:02] <Kury> if I use a usb hub?
[09:02] <J4k3> blew the 48v side out of the rb532... 12-24v side works fine... *Shrug*
[09:02] <J4k3> no other damages.
[09:02] <Kaloz> J4k3: ouch
[09:02] <Kaloz> hehe, those russians are hard to destroy *g*
[09:02] <z3ro> J4k3: there probably would be dammages to the cpu, maybe not visable ones though.
[09:04] <Kury> J4k3: you there?
[09:05] <J4k3> barely
[09:05] <J4k3> yeah
[09:05] <Kury> J4k3: If I buy a WGT634U can I hook more than one USB drive to it? using a USB hub?
[09:05] <J4k3> its a regular usb hub
[09:05] <J4k3> err usb port
[09:05] <J4k3> I Dunno if the drivers are working on it
[09:05] <J4k3> I haven't tried them at all
[09:05] <J4k3> Kaloz
[09:06] <J4k3> new hardware to support...
[09:06] <J4k3> http://www.ubnt.com/litestation2.php4
[09:06] <J4k3> http://www.ubnt.com/supper_range9.php4 and I'm still drooling on that
[09:06] <Kaloz> oh
[09:07] <J4k3> :)
[09:07] <Kaloz> oh
[09:07] <J4k3> rumor has it the litestation will be very much reasonably inexpensive.
[09:07] <Kaloz> :)
[09:08] <Kaloz> J4k3: seems like ar231x to me :)
[09:08] <J4k3> but I have no idea of the ram/flash quantity yet
[09:08] <J4k3> it is
[09:08] <J4k3> its exactly what I've been begging for, actually
[09:08] <Kaloz> wondering on flash/ram
[09:08] <J4k3> yeah, I should know tomorrow
[09:08] <Kaloz> J4k3: okay :)
[09:08] <J4k3> when I requested the product be made, I said minimum 4/16, preferably 8/32
[09:08] <Kaloz> thinking of how the hell could i get one
[09:08] <J4k3> dude
[09:08] <J4k3> hmm.
[09:08] <Kaloz> their "distributor" here has sr5
[09:09] <Kaloz> nothing else :p
[09:09] <J4k3> the litestation isn't on the market yet.. afaik it just hit production
[09:09] <Kaloz> OMG
[09:09] <Kaloz> WTF
[09:09] <Kaloz> sr9 is 70mw?
[09:09] <J4k3> I'll inquire with the manufacturer about 3rd party support hardware ;)
[09:09] <Kaloz> err, 700
[09:09] <J4k3> 700mW @ ~915 mhz
[09:10] <J4k3> GSM frequency in europe
[09:10] <J4k3> and most of the rest of the world really
[09:10] <Kaloz> hmmm
[09:12] <J4k3> http://www.ubnt.com/supper_range3.php4 ... and that, no consumer hardware in the 3.65 band
[09:12] <J4k3> but its still microwave, so its got all the microwave issues
[09:12] <J4k3> 900 pounds trees, buildings, etc.
[09:13] <Kaloz> http://www.antcor.com/ac/cikarusos
[09:13] <Kaloz> seems like linux for me
[09:13] <Kaloz> hopefully it has enough flash and ram
[09:13] <J4k3> it is linux-based
[09:14] <Kaloz> to be honest
[09:14] <Kaloz> no idea how can we handle 9 or 3.5G driver-wise
[09:14] <J4k3> its going to emulate a 2.4 device
[09:15] <blaah`> hey, is there a way to track my wifi network so i know why its getting disconnected every few hours?
[09:15] <Kaloz> oh, so harsware tricks? great
[09:16] <J4k3> Kaloz: I'm guessing its a regular atheros radio with a frequency converter on the low power side, then amplified from there.
[09:17] <J4k3> and similar on the RX chain
[09:18] <Kaloz> 900MHz would be insanely funny stuff to play with =)
[09:20] <blaah`> anyone?
[09:21] <Kaloz> J4k3: o fcc info from the ls2 :p but ap1 is up there
[09:22] <J4k3> kaloz: it'll be out soon.
[09:22] <J4k3> certification is easy these days... its like $1200
[09:22] <J4k3> for all the lab time, paperwork, etc.
[09:25] <SOLARMASTER> If you are bored of IRC, take time to join my game at : http://sre.servegame.com, I need some beta-testers who like strategics webgames (Its a port/clone of SRE[SOLAR REALMS ELITE]), come and play
[09:26] <[mbm]> SPAM!
[09:26] <J4k3> oh snap
[09:26] <J4k3> haha, thats hilarious
[09:26] <J4k3> we got spammed for a door game
[09:27] <[mbm]> should we crash it?
[09:27] <J4k3> I haven't played SRE since my desktop PC was slower than a wrt.
[09:27] <blaah`> i just bought a new linksys wifi router and it disconnects after couple of hours by itself, any idea why its doin that?
[09:27] <J4k3> blaah`: some are defective, return for replacement.
[09:27] <[mbm]> blaah`: because it's a crappy consumer grade product that cuts every corner possible and comes with a shitty firmware?
[09:28] <J4k3> or what mbm said
[09:28] <[mbm]> blaah`: if it says "v5" on it then it really is a piece of shit
[09:28] <blaah`> is is a v5
[09:28] <z3ro> blaah`: also, there is other hardware that's *not* linksys...
[09:29] <blaah`> z3ro, i know, but its prices are .. reasonable!
[09:29] <blaah`> specially that here they dont sell access points, just routers
[09:29] <z3ro> most of linksys' hardware is pretty bad, but there wrt54g's make good bootloader devel boxes, and ar7 isn't too bad.
[09:29] <z3ro> although ar7 is still in development...
[09:29] <blaah`> z3ro, thats the one i have
[09:29] <blaah`> WRT54G
[09:29] <z3ro> which reminds me; I need to fixup the mtd driver.
[09:30] <[mbm]> blaah`: the v5 cut the resources in half and switched from linux to vxworks .. heard nothing but complaints about the switch
[09:30] <z3ro> blaah`: yeah, radio's crap, cpu's pretty crap, etc.
[09:30] <z3ro> and like [mbm] said, the v5 is crippled.
[09:30] <blaah`> well, wat specs should i look then in a wifi router?
[09:30] <z3ro> return it, buy something better.
[09:30] <z3ro> blaah`: large flash, memory, good radio (atheros, etc)
[09:31] <[mbm]> blaah`: you can return it and try to get a v4 which will actually run fairly stable once you toss out the linksys firmware
[09:31] <blaah`> [mbm] i thought the firmware is needed?
[09:31] <[mbm]> or you can go look at the TableOfHarware on the wiki and pick out something slightly more powerful
[09:31] <blaah`> z3ro, im still new to wireless .. can you tell me a model for example?
[09:31] <blaah`> so i can compare wit the ones they got in stores here
[09:31] <z3ro> blaah`: it depends on what you want. read the bale of hardware.
[09:32] <[mbm]> blaah`: you have absolutely no idea what this place is for, do you?
[09:32] <z3ro> s/bale/table/
[09:32] <z3ro> [mbm]: I'm starting to get the "someone who dosen't know gnu/linux wants to use openwrt" feeling again...
[09:32] <blaah`> [mbm], i do, i was sent here cuz of something else, but i couldnt resist on asking about that
[09:33] <z3ro> ...
[09:33] <blaah`> z3ro, heheh .. thats why i was sent here .. to ask about openWRT and how its used
[09:33] <blaah`> but i found that in google after i joined
[09:33] <z3ro> blaah`: do you know gnu/linux?
[09:33] <[mbm]> "< blaah`> [mbm] i thought the firmware is needed?" .. A firmware? yes. The one produced by Linksys? no.
[09:33] <blaah`> z3ro, i know little unix .. i used like 2 OS
[09:33] <blaah`> mandrake and suse for some time
[09:33] <blaah`> im on windows now
[09:33] <Dead-Body> so, the wgr634 is supported all but wireless?
[09:33] <z3ro> blaah`: id you don't have a good understanding of gnu/linux, openwrt is *not* for you.
[09:33] <[mbm]> z3ro: he knew how to click the kde icon
[09:33] <z3ro> [mbm]: hehe, yeah...
[09:34] <blaah`> z3ro, fair enough!
[09:34] <z3ro> blaah`: and by understanding, I mean more than "look, I can install a distro using an install cd"...
[09:34] <J4k3> Dead-Body: wireless works great, too.
[09:34] <blaah`> well, thats wat i did .. heheh .. i installed the distros usin cds
[09:34] <J4k3> Dead-Body: you'll just have to hack up a few 'custom' scripts.
[09:34] <J4k3> no biggie.
[09:34] <blaah`> anyhow,
[09:34] <z3ro> [mbm]: hmm... I actually think a "openwrt quiz" would be a good idea. see if the person knows enough to be able to successfully use openwrt.
[09:34] <blaah`> thanx for the help
[09:35] <blaah`> z3ro, they dont have to know much to try somthin out?
[09:35] Action: Dead_Body adds a wgr634 to the order...
[09:35] <z3ro> blaah`: you need a *good* understanding of gnu/linux to use openwrt.
[09:36] <blaah`> then a gnu/linux quiz would do the job =p
[09:36] <[mbm]> blaah`: go play trivial.net, tell us your score
[09:36] <z3ro> you need more than: "I can follow a manual and install a disto, but don't know how to do anything on it without explicit instructions"
[09:36] <blaah`> why dont you go check if you beat your last IQ ?
[09:36] <blaah`> anyhow,
[09:36] <blaah`> thanx for the help
[09:37] <[mbm]> beat an IQ test?
[09:37] <Dead_Body> heh
[09:37] <Dead_Body> i beat mine :P
[09:37] <Dead_Body> with hammers!
[09:37] <[mbm]> I suppose that's better than passing an IQ test ..
[09:38] <z3ro> how can you "pass" an iq test, don't you just answer questions, then just get a number for your iq?
[09:38] <z3ro> eg: you can't pass/fail, but you can have a high or low number.
[09:39] <[mbm]> z3ro: exactly, I don't know why they call it a "test", it's a measurement
[09:39] <z3ro> yeah
[09:39] <[mbm]> a questionable means of measurement at that
[09:48] <ads> morning
[10:08] <[mbm]> hmm my connection sucks today .. can barely get to google
[10:33] <[mbm]> ..
[11:17] <Asus_> how do i disable nat on wrt ?
[11:17] <Asus_> i forgot it, iptables masq command
[11:18] <lin_max> I have problem with name resolving can anybody help me?
[11:22] Last message repeated 1 time(s).
[11:22] <Josephus> lol
[11:30] <[mbm]> .
[11:31] <Asus_> umm
[11:31] <Asus_> i need to masq my 6 public ip's on my linksys
[11:31] <Asus_> atm its natting i need to some how do this
[11:31] <Asus_> anyone help?
[11:32] <[mbm]> you can do it with 6 dnat rules and 6 forwarding rules
[11:32] <Asus_> mmmm
[11:32] <Asus_> well i have 6 public ip's on my lan
[11:32] <Asus_> but the linksys is natting them all
[11:33] <Asus_> so the network always uses the gateway ip
[11:33] <Asus_> i once had a lil masq script that suppsed to turn of nat
[11:34] <lin_max> can anybody help me to solve nameresolving in router?
[11:34] <[mbm]> you can't really put public ip addresses behind the linksys unless it's set to bridge the lan and wan or you've somehow got your linksys specified as a gateway from the internet side (which requires some cooperation from the isp)
[11:34] <[mbm]> lin_max: get a clue and ask an intelligent question, not the same usless question
[11:34] <Asus_> the ip's are allocated top me and are in the routing table
[11:35] <Asus_> this pc im on now has 202.43.233.138
[11:35] <[mbm]> Asus_: you're missing the point
[11:35] <Asus_> but since its natted my irc says its connected from my gateway
[11:35] <Asus_> im just after how to disable nat with iptables
[11:36] <Asus_> i had a 2 line script once that has iptables commands and masq
[11:36] <Asus_> and it fixed everything
[11:36] <[mbm]> Asus_: traffic from the internet needs to have a route to your computer, and because your computer is behind the wrt, it needs to know to route via the wrt
[11:36] <Asus_> yes i know
[11:36] <Asus_> but i dont know the syntax
[11:37] <Asus_> my wrt has a wan ip and an allocated ip from the subnet i was given
[11:37] <Asus_> so my wrt has 2 public ip's
[11:37] <Asus_> one from ppp and other for the lan to route
[11:37] <[mbm]> *sigh* I don't think you understand, but let me aswer your literal question rather than trying to solve the problem .. remove the -j MASQUERADE line from the firewall
[11:37] <Asus_> 202.43.230.81 == ppp
[11:37] <Asus_> 202.43.233.136/29
[11:37] <Asus_> is my allocation
[11:37] <Asus_> dude
[11:37] <Asus_> i do understand
[11:37] <Asus_> i dont understand the syntax
[11:37] <Asus_> to do what i need
[11:37] <Asus_> it has worked
[11:38] <Asus_> i just lost the syntax
[11:38] <Asus_> i have had this working.
[11:38] <lin_max> mbm : I cannot browse from my PC's and can ping the site's IP's
[11:38] <Asus_> [8:33] | hostname: n=asdas@202.43.230.81
[11:38] <Asus_> thats my gateway
[11:38] <Asus_> with the command i had before
[11:38] <lin_max> mbm: the problem is with the dns in my linksys router
[11:38] <Asus_> it would show one ip from my allocation
[11:39] <lin_max> mbm : But I can ping the names of websites from the router
[11:39] <[mbm]> lin_max: are you running dnsmasq on the router?
[11:40] <lin_max> yes
[11:40] <[mbm]> lin_max: then your clients should have that set as their dns server
[11:40] <lin_max> mbm : you mean router IP ?
[11:41] <[mbm]> yes.
[11:41] <lin_max> mbm : It was configured to use DHCP for the clients now it is not working with name resolving but can use messenger like yahoo,aol etc from the pc's
[11:42] <Asus_> help?
[11:42] <[mbm]> Asus_: told you, remove the masq rule and it'll stop natting
[11:42] <Asus_> syntax to help me?
[11:42] <Asus_> i dont know the syntax
[11:42] <[mbm]> you open the damned file and remove it
[11:42] <Asus_> what dammed file
[11:42] <Asus_> rofl
[11:42] <overseer> Asus_: not you
[11:42] <[mbm]> Asus_: /etc/init.d/S45firewall.user
[11:42] <Asus_> mm
[11:43] <Asus_> cat: /etc/init.d/S45firewall.user: No such file or directory
[11:43] <[mbm]> er ..
[11:43] <[mbm]> too tired
[11:43] <[mbm]> S45firewall
[11:43] <lin_max> mbm : its for me ? -> you open the damned file and remove it
[11:43] <Asus_> negative
[11:43] <Asus_> not there
[11:44] <overseer> /etc/init.d/S45firewall
[11:44] <Asus_> im sorry
[11:44] <Asus_> but that is not there
[11:44] <Asus_> wrt54g
[11:44] <[mbm]> Asus_: are you running openwrt?
[11:44] <Asus_> no sorry
[11:44] <Asus_> dd-wrt
[11:44] <overseer> ya
[11:44] Action: [mbm] in a very bad mood
[11:44] <overseer> mbm -- are you tired?
[11:45] <overseer> i can take over for a few minutes :)
[11:45] <[mbm]> *shrug* go for it
[11:45] <lin_max> mbm: are you there?
[11:45] <overseer> lin_max: i cleared my channel history -- repeat your question
[11:46] <lin_max> my router was configured to use DHCP for the clients now it is not working with name resolving but can use messenger like yahoo,aol etc from the pc's
[11:47] <overseer> is your router running openwrt?
[11:47] <lin_max> overseer : yeah
[11:47] <overseer> is it still configured to be your DHCP server?
[11:48] <lin_max> overseer : Yes it is leasing IP'c for the PC's but the PC's cannot access the websites
[11:48] <overseer> what dns is it handing out along with the IP leases?
[11:48] <lin_max> overseer : From the router I can ping the sites names
[11:49] <overseer> that's very interesting, but not what I'm interested in yet.
[11:50] <overseer> lin_max: are you looking for the answer to my question?
[11:50] <lin_max> overseer : just a second pls
[11:51] <lin_max> overseer : Its using dnsmasq
[11:51] <overseer> lin_max: what dns is it handing out along with the IP leases?
[11:52] <lin_max> overseer : Its using dnsmasq
[11:52] <overseer> my question wasn't HOW, it's WHAT
[11:53] <overseer> WHAT are the nameservers it's handing out with the IP leases
[11:53] <lin_max> overseer : You mean the ISP's DNS IP's
[11:53] <lin_max> ?
[11:54] <overseer> lin_max: when the clients receive an IP address from the DHCP server, they also receive a list of nameservers
[11:54] <overseer> what list of nameservers do the CLIENTs get?
[11:54] <lin_max> overseer : Its the IP of the router
[11:55] <overseer> what is in the router's /etc/resolv.conf
[11:55] <lin_max> overseer : in /etc/resolv.conf I have entered the ISP's DNS server's IP
[11:56] <overseer> when did you make those changes?
[11:56] <lin_max> overseer : one doubt? I have yesterday use the command ipkg update is it make some problem?
[11:56] <overseer> no
[11:57] Action: [mbm] points at the common mistakes in the topic
[11:57] <lin_max> overseer: it was not changed from the date of installation
[11:57] <overseer> do you have a static IP address from your ISP?
[11:57] <lin_max> overseer : no
[11:57] <overseer> so why did you need to make changes to /etc/resolv.conf?
[11:58] <[mbm]> lin_max: appears as if you've changed your dns entries since dnsmasq was started; restart dnsmasq
[11:58] <lin_max> overseer : I didn't changed it
[11:58] <overseer> in /etc/resolv.conf I have entered the ISP's DNS server's IP
[11:58] <lin_max> overseer : in router?
[11:58] <overseer> listen to mbm and go read the common mistakes
[11:59] <lin_max> overseer : me too
[11:59] <overseer> you said the following " in /etc/resolv.conf I have entered the ISP's DNS server's IP" -- how does this equal " I didn't changed it"
[11:59] <overseer> lin_max: is english your primary language?
[11:59] <[mbm]> somehow the phrase "english well comprehend you are not" comes to mind right about now
[12:00] <lin_max> overseer : no, that is the main problem
[12:00] <lin_max> overseer : dont misunderstand me if I made mistakes
[12:00] <overseer> then you need to be extra careful what you say, or explain in advance that you have language problems in addition to your router problems ;)
[12:00] <overseer> restart your router, or restart dnsmasq
[12:01] Action: overseer has a pain in the neck... and it's been stuck there for 5 days
[12:02] <lin_max> overseer : when I restart the router it show this message: "dnsmasq: failed to bind listening socket: Address already in use"
[12:03] <[mbm]> lin_max: where did it show that message?
[12:04] Action: [mbm] thinks you misunderstood "restart your router"
[12:04] <lin_max> mbm : in the terminal I run ./S50dnsmasq restart
[12:04] <[mbm]> lin_max: unplug the device, plug it back in
[12:04] <lin_max> mbm : please wait a moment
[12:07] <lin_max> mbm: Its not working
[12:08] <overseer> is dnsmasq running ?
[12:08] <lin_max> yes
[12:09] <overseer> please type 'uptime' and paste the output here
[12:09] <lin_max> 16:39:21 up 3 min, load average: 0.04, 0.09, 0.03
[12:10] <overseer> so, what isn't working?
[12:10] <lin_max> overseer : The PC's connected to the machine cannot use internet
[12:11] <lin_max> overseer : Router can ping any websites and the PC's can't
[12:11] <overseer> if you run 'nslookup <website.name>' does the output look correct?
[12:11] <lin_max> overseer : If I give DNS IP's manually in a PC's can use the internet
[12:13] <lin_max> from clients if I use nslookup it shows "Query refused " message
[12:13] <overseer> just so you're clear, DNS is a service that converts names into IP addresses, as well as vice versa.
[12:13] <overseer> if you run 'nslookup' on the router, does the output look ok?
[12:13] <lin_max> yes
[12:14] <overseer> what is the nameserver listed in the output of the nslookup when run on the router?
[12:14] <lin_max> Name: www.yahoo.akadns.net , Address: 66.94.230.48
[12:15] <overseer> the line that starts "Server: " --
[12:15] <lin_max> I can ping this Address from the PC
[12:16] <lin_max> *** Unknown host
[12:16] <lin_max> Name: www.l.google.com
[12:16] <lin_max> Address: 66.102.7.147
[12:16] <nobody_su> moin
[12:16] <lin_max> only this much I am getting if I run nslookup www.google.com
[12:16] <overseer> the "Query refused " message probably means that you have a firewall rule blocking your clients from doing DNS to your router
[12:17] <lin_max> ok what I will do ?
[12:17] <[mbm]> better question - what did you do?
[12:18] <lin_max> mbm : I am an amateur to this openWRT
[12:18] <[mbm]> lin_max: why are you running openwrt?
[12:19] <lin_max> as the gateway
[12:19] <[mbm]> I asked why
[12:19] <[mbm]> why did you change the firmware?
[12:19] <[mbm]> why did you load openwrt?
[12:19] <lin_max> for connecting the internet
[12:19] <overseer> why are you running openwrt instead of the software that came loaded on it from the factory?
[12:20] <lin_max> My senior was configured openvpn in it
[12:22] <Hughe> whats the most stable openwrt box with adsl at the mo?
[12:22] <overseer> lin_max: can you please rephrase your answer -- i don't understand who or what "My senior"
[12:23] <lin_max> overseer : we are using the router for adsl connection
[12:24] <overseer> lin_max: WHY did you change the firmware on your router?
[12:24] <lin_max> for installing openvpn
[12:24] <overseer> ok
[12:25] <[mbm]> lin_max: you had help installing openvpn?
[12:25] <lin_max> yes from openvpn.net
[12:26] <overseer> did the openvpn folks have you make any changes to the firewall rules ?
[12:27] <lin_max> no
[12:27] <lin_max> ok let me try this
[12:28] <overseer> did you make any changes to the router?
[12:29] <lin_max> no
[12:30] <lin_max> ok thanks for wasting your precious time for me
[12:31] <lin_max> see you again thanks once again
[12:31] <overseer> seriously though, no thank you.
[12:31] <overseer> your underwhelming thanks is really appreciated here.
[12:38] <SiD3WiNDR> ducksex? :p
[12:39] Action: Rawplayer schopt SiD3WiNDR
[12:39] <[mbm]> well, we know what sick things are on SiD3WiNDR's mind
[12:40] <[mbm]> although I really wish I didn't
[12:41] <Rawplayer> he is from belgium.. so it makes sence
[12:41] <Rawplayer> those people are wierd ;)
[12:41] <[mbm]> I'm sure it's legalized in some parts of the world ..
[12:42] <Rawplayer> hehe
[12:45] <[mbm]> http://graphics.stanford.edu/~seander/bithacks.html .. nifty link
[12:45] <iurgi> ping nbd
[12:46] <iurgi> mmm
[12:46] <iurgi> there's some kind of a bug i webif
[12:46] <iurgi> in webif
[12:46] <[mbm]> if you want us to fix it you'll need to describe it better
[12:46] <iurgi> [mbm]: I'm comming :)
[12:47] <iurgi> it's not really a bug
[12:47] <iurgi> when you apply password
[12:47] <iurgi> it is set in /etc/passwd and then written in /etc/httpd.conf
[12:47] <iurgi> but if you change it in the shell
[12:48] <iurgi> it doesn't get updated in /etc/httpd.conf
[12:48] <iurgi> does it?
[12:48] <[mbm]> iurgi: doesn't .. known bug
[12:48] <iurgi> ok
[12:49] <iurgi> couldn't that be fixed in /etc/init.d/S50httpd?
[12:49] <iurgi> something like "check wether password is set... if it is, read it from /etc/httpd.conf"
[12:50] <[mbm]> hmm doesn't seem like the proper way to fix it
[12:50] <iurgi> ok... just wondering
[12:51] <iurgi> did you already figure any other ways?
[12:51] <iurgi> I guess it's low priority...
[12:52] <[mbm]> probably just patch httpd to read /etc/passwd
[12:55] <[mbm]> no idea but it does seem an unlikely feature for a consumer router
[12:57] <iurgi> well... I've had this issue with at least 2 dozens of users out of 200
[12:57] <seeker77> it _is_ mentioned on asus' homepage. but i'm confused about the fact that in several forums users complain about it not working. perhaps they have a proprietary implementation of poe or it's just a marketing fake (some people are reporting about no physical connections between the power circuit and the ethernet ports
[12:57] <iurgi> people like mangling with things...
[12:57] <iurgi> hehehe
[12:58] <[mbm]> seeker77: could be multiple hardware revisions, not all supporting 802.3af
[12:58] <msh__> anyone know if the "multiple bssid" stuff should work? (wr rc4)
[12:58] <[mbm]> but if the asus site claims it to support 802.3af then I'd say that atleast the latest revision would
[12:59] <[mbm]> msh__: whiterussian does not support any multiple ssid features
[12:59] <msh__> [mbm]: ah, ok.
[12:59] <seeker77> [mbm]: sounds reasonable to me... but you probably know that's kinda hard to get details about hw internals from the vendors. they don't even _mention_ different hw revisions
[12:59] Action: [olli] point to http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=4077 for multiple ssid stuff
[12:59] <[olli]> points*
[13:00] <msh__> [olli]: thanks
[13:00] <[mbm]> seeker77: well, you can always buy one and then yell at asus tech support when it doesn't work as advertised
[13:02] <seeker77> [mbm]: that's what i'd do normally, but i have to get a storehouse equipped mid next week with 6 openwrt routers powered over ethernet
[13:04] <[mbm]> reminds me, I need to order a poe switch; hard to find those retail, even at specialty stores
[13:04] <seeker77> does anybody know about other openwrt-routers with (confirmed) poe support?
[13:06] <[mbm]> seeker77: you'll probably have to dig through TableOfHardware .. I know linksys will sell you an overpriced 802.3af splitter .. cat5 in&out with an additional connection for power
[13:06] <seeker77> [mbm]: the netgear fs116p seems to be widely available at a reasonable price (16 ports, while 8 have poe support)
[13:07] <[mbm]> seeker77: yeah, that's actually the model I was looking for, but even stores like frys don't cary it
[13:07] <seeker77> [mbm]: i've seen those, but the customer doesn't want to have a battery of power supplies in his rack
[13:07] <[mbm]> seeker77: it's not a battery
[13:07] <[mbm]> it's just a tiny dongle that you plug in
[13:07] <seeker77> [mbm]: sorry, wrong word, i'm not native english speaker
[13:08] <[mbm]> er .. ok you're right .. I'm not expecting people to speak english
[13:08] <seeker77> [mbm]: what i mean is every dongle has it's own power source, while a poe switch has a single power connection for all ap's
[13:09] <[mbm]> for the last 2 hours I've been reading english butchered so badly I had to read every other word and guess what was intended
[13:09] <seeker77> i see :-)
[13:09] <seeker77> [mbm]: i don't know how easy it's for you to order from switzerland, but the shops have the netgear switch in stock
[13:11] <[mbm]> seeker77: I can order it, I'm just looking for places that already have it
[13:11] <seeker77> ok
[13:12] <awol> and he walks away again...
[13:12] <seeker77> so, i think i'll order those asus, i'll report the results here if it is of interest. having 802.3af-powered openwrt routers seems a nice thing to me
[13:15] <Hughe> [olli]: any idea hat the most stable ar7 box is for adsl at the mo?
[13:17] <[olli]> Hughe: i use a d-link dsl-g664t here with nbd's latest ar7 kamikaze snapshot
[13:17] <[olli]> 13:16:39 up 19 days, 11:46, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[13:17] <[olli]> Linux OpenWrt 2.4.32 #1 Sat Nov 19 04:43:08 CET 2005 mips unknown
[13:17] <mrmr> mmmh
[13:17] <mrmr> DSL2+?
[13:17] <[mbm]> Hughe: the ar7 isn't really supported though so you're pretty much on your own if you have issues
[13:18] <[olli]> mrmr: no. normal adsl. i can't get adsl2+ here where i live
[13:18] <mrmr> do someone know any dsl2+ compatible hardwre?
[13:18] <[olli]> mrmr: maximum bandwidth i can get with adsl is 6mbit
[13:18] <mrmr> [olli]: me too
[13:18] <mrmr> btw, tecnology is evolving, and my ISP is on the way
[13:19] Action: [olli] will stay with 2mbit as long as it's possible
[13:19] <mrmr> eheh
[13:19] <mrmr> i'd like more bandwidth...
[13:20] <mrmr> upload bandwidth
[13:20] <mrmr> i'm stucked with 356k now
[13:21] <zoo> i think the AR7 devices support ADSL2+
[13:22] <mrmr> zoo...it depends ithink
[13:23] <zoo> well sure, it depends on the firmware you upload to the Modem chipset
[13:25] <[mbm]> hmm today seems to be one of those days where there's absolutely nothing interesting happening on the web
[13:25] Action: [mbm] starving for new content
[13:27] <mrmr> so...you are telling me that ALL ar7 could support DSL2+ with "right" Model firmware?
[13:34] <aton`> could it be that dnsmasq makes really tight checks on the dns request, like udp checksum has to be used and correct and udp length has to be right?
[13:34] <aton`> it drops my dns packets
[13:34] <aton`> and those two things are the only difference i can see
[13:37] <[mbm]> aton`: it's the job of the os and the firewall to block invalid traffic, not the application
[13:38] <[mbm]> aton`: dnsmasq has a debug mode which may help you see which request make it throught
[13:41] <aton`> [mbm], do you know how i can activate the debug mode? i cannot find a help file
[13:42] <[olli]> dnsmasq --help
[13:42] <[mbm]> dnsmasq --help
[13:42] <aton`> heh i tried -help
[13:42] <aton`> thanks
[13:43] <[mbm]> always two -'s before a word (--help) , and one - before a single letter option (-h)
[13:43] <aton`> yes in fact i did -h
[13:43] <aton`> which means --no-hosts
[13:43] <[mbm]> yeah.. dnsmasq is weird that way
[13:45] <aton`> hm the debug mode doesnt display anything about dns
[13:46] <[olli]> restart dnsmasq
[13:46] <aton`> i did
[13:46] <aton`> i am running in debug mode now
[13:46] <fish_> re
[13:46] <aton`> it shows me dhcp request and answers
[13:46] <aton`> bug no dns
[13:51] <aton`> dnsmasq answers the dns queries but absolutely no output in debug mode
[13:51] <[mbm]> noticed that .. just checked
[13:52] <[mbm]> aton`: btw the firewall is set to drop invalid packets
[13:52] <aton`> not mine
[13:52] <[mbm]> you already modified S45firewall?
[13:53] <aton`> no i didnt modify the file
[13:53] <aton`> i wrote my own script and executed it
[13:53] <aton`> so that when i reboot the router the original firewall settings will be restored
[14:20] <Burner_> Is there big difference between different hw models on max speed what router and simple firewall can give? Uff as we see english "skills" is not best part of me :P
[14:53] <overseer> Burner_: hw models / max speed / simple firewall -- what's the question?
[14:55] <scandium> I think the question is "does it make a difference if I use a router with an older 125mhz/16mb ram broadcom chip compared to a newer 200mhz/32mb ram one for internet access" - if that's the question, then I think "no difference unless you have a really fat pipe" ;)
[14:56] <scandium> if you buy now, get a new one, if you have an old one, keep that ;)
[14:56] <scandium> new one as in "new model"
[14:59] <overseer> Burner_: yes, what scandium said.
[15:00] <scandium> I still have a wrt54g 1.0, thought about getting an asus wl500g deluxe, but it's probably not worth the upgrade although it has better hardware (I don't really need usb) - although I don't know, I have never tried if it makes an actual difference...but for private use (adsl and 2 or 3 pcs in lan) it probably makes zero difference
[15:01] <scandium> at least it'd surprise me if it did :)
[15:02] <overseer> at 4Mbit down, my wrt54gs cpu load is <30%. and that's with a nice long set of iptables
[15:05] <Blorb> what's the difference between openssl and matrixssl?
[15:06] <zinx> matrixssl is apparently small
[15:06] <zinx> or intended to be
[15:06] <Blorb> yes :)
[15:07] <Blorb> sorry i didn't mean that :D
[15:07] <zinx> unfortunately the fidelity of my internet connection isn't conducive to mind reading
[15:08] <Blorb> :)
[15:09] <zinx> if i had just a few more Mbps...
[15:09] <Blorb> so what's left out of matrixssl?
[15:09] <Blorb> i guess i should just google..
[15:09] <zinx> does something have to be left out for it to be smaller?
[15:09] <zinx> you probably should :D
[15:10] <zinx> i'll sit here and waste your time
[15:10] <zinx> just to see letters appear on my nice new monitor :D
[15:10] <shadows> and zinx delivers the punchline
[15:10] <shadows> what make/model?
[15:10] <zinx> samsung 930bf
[15:11] <shadows> is the bf for big friggin monitor?
[15:11] <zinx> replacing an old Daewoo that could do 1024x768... at 60Hz (i ran it at 800x600, of course)
[15:12] <shadows> ooOoh
[15:12] Action: shadows googs
[15:12] <shadows> 4ms response time is an accurate figure?
[15:12] <zinx> :D
[15:13] <zinx> seems to be
[15:13] <shadows> very nice
[15:13] <shadows> i have the same thing basically, in a 17" format with the 172x
[15:14] <shadows> i think the 4ms is for a newer type of monitor than mine
[15:14] <zinx> probably
[15:14] <shadows> are you much into games or things that require a snappy response?
[15:15] <zinx> i develop games so i needed a lower response time
[15:15] <zinx> yais
[15:15] <zinx> and i'm tired of the fuzziness of CRTs
[15:15] <zinx> very happy with this monitor, apart from the lame stand :)
[15:16] <shadows> ah okay
[15:17] <mrmr> zoo
[15:17] <zinx> arj
[15:18] <shadows> yes i like the 172x stand mucn nicer than the others. it is poor only that the rubber cubes about 4mm x 2mm x 6mm are adhesive backed, and prevent the monitor control buttons from hitting the stand in the all-the-way down position, those adhesive backings do not hold well
[15:18] <shadows> the rubber cubes have fallen off the montior
[15:18] <shadows> i'm not about to go and be adventurous with cynoacrylate
[15:18] <zinx> hehe
[15:21] <shadows> erm, i just spotted an advertisment on /., and it makes me think of a question [http://a.as-us.falkag.net/dat/bgf/200506/10/svrbmyju0006aa(2).gif] is this targeted at Men?
[15:21] <Weedy> http://a.as-us.falkag.net/dat/bgf/200506/10/svrbmyju0006aa(2).gif
[15:21] <Weedy> damn
[15:21] <Weedy> xchat still fails
[15:22] <shadows> so much talk of women being discouraged from the industry, and then i see an ad like that and wonder
[15:27] <Hughe> on avarage women are more interested in the effect something has on people than how it works
[15:27] <Hughe> so there tend to be less women in the industry
[15:27] <Hughe> and then people assume there are less women because they aren't as good for the job
[15:27] <Hughe> *shrug*
[15:28] <Hughe> this office could do with a little less testosterone
[15:29] <scandium> well, define "industry"..I mean, isn't it natural that more men are computer geeks than women as the ratio of young people spending time infront of a pc is probably 10:1 for men/women? it's just a matter of familiarization and time spent over the years. I could imagine I'd also be a ballet dancer
[15:29] <scandium> *cough* ;p
[15:30] <Hughe> i'd say there are probably just as many male ballet dancers already :P
[15:30] <Devi0us> actually. i think that may be slowly reversing itself
[15:31] <Hughe> i'd prefer to be a recording engineer
[15:31] <Devi0us> the starved for attention middle-school and grade school girls are getting more tech savvy , having to outdo each other's myspace accounts and such to stay on top of the attention whoring circuit
[15:31] <Devi0us> i'd prefer to be retired
[15:32] <Hughe> ok, i'd prefer to win the lottery and retire to my recording studio
[15:35] <Devi0us> heh
[15:35] <Devi0us> <- more realistic
[15:52] <scandium> is it mainly a decision of hours when a new release is being made? And also random if the new release is a new RC or the final? ;)
[15:53] <sitx> un saludo para todos
[15:53] <scandium> having no bugs reported for 1.0 in the tracker is not a good indicator, as experience shows that most projects just reassign the remain bugs to current release + x then and release with 0 bugs ;p So what's the criteria?
[15:54] <sitx> soy usuario de openwrt, con problemas
[15:54] <sitx> tengo 2 ap linksys wrt54g con problemas de flashed
[15:55] <sitx> he construido el cable para JTAG pero en el momento de escribir la nvram, cfe o el kernel, wholeflash no los toma
[15:55] <Mister_X> sitx, in english
[15:56] <sitx> de hecho el led de power esta blinking todo el tiempo es como ni cargara el codigo al micro pero no se guardaran los cambios
[15:56] <sitx> mmmm
[15:56] <Mister_X> sabe usted hablar en inglés, sitx
[15:57] <sitx> no mister_x
[15:57] <sitx> wait use my freetranslation
[15:58] <sitx> power understands groins in a good percentage ayudemen please
[15:58] <Eagle_Fire> that makes even less sense than spanish
[15:59] <sitx> I have a wrt54g with problems, perdi access with the router, I need to recover it, I have built the cable JTAG
[15:59] <Scuttle> hum...which of the firmwares do I use for the wrt54gl?
[16:00] <Eagle_Fire> have you tried failsafe mode
[16:00] Action: webmind wonders where one could get a wrt54gl
[16:00] <Eagle_Fire> Scuttle, try the wrt54g one, or the generic-brcm trx
[16:00] <Scuttle> aight...
[16:00] <Eagle_Fire> if it doesn't work, the router will tell you without trying to flash it
[16:00] <sitx> when I run ./wrt54g -flash: nvram or ./wrt54g -flash: nvram begins to write in them you paginate by memory but to seem does not keep the codigo
[16:00] <Scuttle> and... this image has all you need to get a "basic" router up and running?
[16:01] <Eagle_Fire> Scuttle, any settings from the original linksys firmware will be honored
[16:01] <Scuttle> well, I meant like portforwarding and stuff...:)
[16:01] <Eagle_Fire> sitx, flashing via JTAG is dangerous
[16:02] <sitx> when I put the way fail safe not power enters the ip by defect of the router, I have carried out copy of the nvram, cfe, kernel and wholeflash of another route equal
[16:02] <sitx> oo gad
[16:03] <Eagle_Fire> what did you do that broke the router
[16:03] <Eagle_Fire> Scuttle, port forwarding can be done via /etc/firewall.user modification
[16:03] <Mister_X> how did you broke your router?
[16:03] <sitx> but when I do the flash of the different sections the led of lit this intermittent one all the time
[16:03] <Eagle_Fire> scuttle, but if you don't know how to work basic command-line linux you'll feel lost in OpenWrt
[16:03] <Scuttle> hm...
[16:04] <Scuttle> I was thinking it would have a webinterface, like m0n0wall or something
[16:04] <scandium> ..unless webif gives you everything you need :)
[16:04] <Eagle_Fire> OpenWrt's web interface is sparse, if you can't deal with command line you best look elsewhere
[16:04] <Scuttle> hm, any suggestions?
[16:04] <Eagle_Fire> i don't think LEDs should be flashing during JTAG
[16:05] <Eagle_Fire> JTAG is supposed to halt the processor so nothing should be flashing
[16:05] <Eagle_Fire> can you use JTAG to read the flash from your broken router?
[16:05] <fish_> re...
[16:05] <zinx> you're assuming it's the processor that flashes the LED
[16:05] <zinx> i think the hardware itself has a flashing indicator
[16:05] <sitx> my router itself broken when try to keep the changes of configuration of vlan in the boot of the router
[16:05] <Eagle_Fire> that shouldn't need JTAG to fix
[16:06] <Eagle_Fire> all you would need is failsafe mode for that
[16:06] <Eagle_Fire> also, have you tried going in through wireless to try to access the router
[16:06] <Eagle_Fire> you might also try plugging in to different ports of the router
[16:07] <Eagle_Fire> but first you want to make sure you didn't break the router further with JTAG - does it still make a wireless network after you reboot it?
[16:08] <malbon> hola
[16:10] <sitx> malbon, hola
[16:10] <sitx> malbon, alguna vez haz trabajo con un cable JTAG
[16:11] <malbon> sitx: in english?
[16:12] <malbon> sitx: i have made my own jtag cable if that's the question. :)
[16:12] <sitx> ok malbon
[16:13] <sitx> malbon, first, I am in process of recuperacion of my router, when I do the flash to charge to the 99% in nvram and cfe taken of a route good, of model equal
[16:15] <malbon> sitx: yup. what's the problem?
[16:15] <Mister_X> maybe someone can translate spanish to english (without google or babelfish)?
[16:15] <Mister_X> it would be easier
[16:17] <sitx> malbon, my problem is I remain via JTAG I carry out the flash of the nvram and cfe and my router does not start, always this the led of lit lighting and putting out alone this led the demas dull
[16:17] <sitx> Mister_X, yep
[16:18] <malbon> sitx: ah IC. do you not see anything on the serial console cable?
[16:20] <sitx> malbon, that cable serial console is by rs232 or it is el JTAG cable
[16:20] <Eagle_Fire> rs232
[16:20] <malbon> by rs232
[16:21] <sitx> not have cable console
[16:21] <malbon> I would get one before doing anything else if I were you.
[16:21] <sitx> only have JTAG cable conect
[16:23] <Eagle_Fire> sitx, does your router make a wireless network?
[16:23] <sitx> in this moments my router no working, anyting conecction
[16:23] <Eagle_Fire> no wireless then
[16:23] <sitx> no working by tftp
[16:23] <sitx> no wireless
[16:23] <sitx> no ethernet ports cable
[16:24] <Eagle_Fire> i think you made it worse by JTAG
[16:24] <sitx> only blinking led power all time
[16:24] <doddel> how does one change from CVS based set-up to SVN based set-up without starting from scratch ? Is there a How-to on that ?
[16:25] <malbon> sitx: what caused you to start with a jtag cable?
[16:26] <sitx> the use incorect of scritp for vlans configuration, add to boot sequence
[16:26] <Eagle_Fire> doddel: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=svn+cvs+howto&btnG=Google+Search
[16:26] <florian_> doddel: there are scripts such as cvs2svn
[16:27] <malbon> sitx: right.
[16:27] <Eagle_Fire> that could have been fixed with failsafe mode, or coming in through wireless, or serial console
[16:27] <sitx> this me abandonment outside of every access al router
[16:27] <Eagle_Fire> but now it's far far worse
[16:27] <doddel> thanks; so nothing special for OpenWrt to be careful about in changing and letting conversion script have a go ?
[16:27] <malbon> I had one go like yours because I left it out in a field powered, I've never been able to fix it, but then the whole thing got rained on and there is corrosion on the switch chip.
[16:28] <malbon> Eagle_Fire, I was thinking that, but was too polite to say it. ;)
[16:28] <Eagle_Fire> doddel: you were running CVS on a WRT?
[16:29] <Eagle_Fire> sitx: are you able to read your broken router using your JTAG
[16:29] <doddel> E_F: havn't compiled for a while (on PC of course :-) and would like to make things current again
[16:30] <sitx> yep i am read my broken router using JTAG
[16:30] <sitx> one question Eagle
[16:31] <sitx> in this moments have build a serial cable using max232
[16:32] <sitx> or what solutions exists on this problem
[16:32] <Eagle_Fire> right now a serial cable won't help
[16:33] <sitx> ups
[16:33] <malbon> eagle: that's not entirely true, can't you see if CFE is loading but failing somewhere.
[16:33] <Eagle_Fire> does what you read from your router match what you're flashing onto it
[16:34] <Eagle_Fire> malbon: if it's corrupt firmware you'll see boot_wait... if it's not then we're powerless to fix it anyway
[16:35] <sitx> yes, the boot_wait not is on in this moments
[16:35] <malbon> Eagle: ok, I'm not using CFE much....
[16:36] <Eagle_Fire> sitx, when the firmware is corrupt but CFE is working, CFE enters boot_wait because it cannot boot the firmware
[16:37] <sitx> if at this time all the nvram, cfe, kernel and wholeflash of a route functions well, and charge these to my router inaccessible, this can function
[16:38] <Eagle_Fire> wholeflash is not a part of the flash, it is the whole flash - it encompasses nvram, cfe, and kernel
[16:38] <sitx> ook
[16:40] <sitx> why when i do el flashed of nvram and cfe the router no change status in the leds
[16:40] <sitx> of power, this blinking any time
[16:40] <Eagle_Fire> you would need to reboot with JTAG disconnected before seeing any results
[16:42] <sitx> the serial cable need software or only hardware make by maxim
[16:43] <sitx> one stupid question
[16:43] <Eagle_Fire> just the hardware, software is any terminal program
[16:43] <Eagle_Fire> like hyperterminal or minicom
[16:43] <sitx> yes
[16:43] <sitx> only the hardware build with maxim rs232
[16:44] <sitx> and hyperterminal equal to administration cisco rs232?
[16:45] <Eagle_Fire> yes
[16:46] <sitx> other question when my configuration is bad, i am able recovery via rs232
[16:46] <Eagle_Fire> yes
[16:46] <sitx> ok
[16:46] <Eagle_Fire> because even without network access, serial console will let you get to a command line
[16:46] <sitx> for future problems
[16:47] <sitx> yep equal admin cisco
[16:48] <sitx> in this moment which is my solution,
[16:48] <sitx> is posible recovery via JTAG
[16:49] <sitx> the process JTAG, 1. Write nvram.bin
[16:49] <sitx> 2. Write CFE.BIN
[16:49] <sitx> but the state led power no change
[16:50] <Eagle_Fire> sitx, it won't until you restart the router with no JTAG connected
[16:50] <sitx> always is off on off on off on
[16:50] <sitx> yep
[16:51] <sitx> mmm in this moment i try again flash nvram.bin and restart without JTAG connected
[17:01] <sitx> yes, the flashed of NVRAM.BIN done
[17:01] <sitx> this moment reboot my router
[17:02] <shadows> i need to parody some celine dion songs using lines from new-to-english contestants on IRC channels
[17:03] <NAiL> haha
[17:05] <sitx> Eagle, not change status led power, it is on off on off
[17:05] <sitx> in this moments write CFE.BIN
[17:07] <sitx> Eagle, with NVRAM and CFE flashed the route running
[17:07] <sitx> only NVRAM and CFE
[17:09] <Eagle_Fire> so it's working now?
[17:14] <sitx> Eagle nou
[17:15] <sitx> aah nou nou in this moments it is writing CFE.BIN
[17:16] Action: shadows continues the paraody with a notable song from "Titanic"
[17:16] <sitx> Eagle, and othet question is possible work vlan id > to id 15
[17:20] <sitx> Eagle, the chip for switch is limited to 0-15 vlans
[17:20] <sitx> Eagle, the chip Broadcom
[17:24] <Pooh22> what was the nvram variable for the txpower of the wlan? I remember playing with it once and now it's at 19dBm, but I think it should be somewhere at 15dBm...
[17:24] <Pooh22> I can't remember which variable is used for that?
[17:24] <Pooh22> I mean ! :-(
[17:25] <sitx> pwrmax
[17:25] <Pooh22> ah tnx :-)
[17:26] <sitx> nvram show all | grep pwr
[17:26] <sitx> exist thow variables
[17:26] <sitx> ok
[17:26] <Pooh22> I see pa0maxpwr=0x48
[17:27] <Pooh22> that the one?
[17:27] <sitx> yeap
[17:27] <Pooh22> what is the normal power setting?
[17:28] <Pooh22> 0x20?
[17:28] <[olli]> Pooh22, sitx: please read the thread in the channel topic about playing with power settings
[17:28] <sitx> the power on wrt only work to 84mW
[17:29] <sitx> view this analizer spectrum results http://wl500g.info/showthread.php?t=12&page=2
[17:29] <sitx> yeap
[17:29] <sitx> ups sorry
[17:30] <Pooh22> [olli]: tnx, I've seen it and forgot again ;-)
[17:30] <Pooh22> but I want to reduce the power, not increase it...
[17:32] <[olli]> don't play with tx power
[17:32] <[olli]> .
[17:33] <Pooh22> [olli]: I think the power was changed before and I want to set it to a normal value
[17:34] <Pooh22> I just don't know what is normal...
[17:52] <juergen8> hi!
[17:53] <juergen8> i usually have my wlan disabled in my openwrt box (for security reasons). but for my girlfriend who is the only wlan user this isn't a good solution. today i had the idea to connect a mouse to the usb port and enable/disable the wlan interface by mouseclicks. could this work? does the kernel provide everything i'd need for this?
[17:56] <mrverbos1> where can i find the dual serial mod page from openwrt.org?
[17:58] <nobody_su> moni
[18:00] <sitx> Eagle: the response of flashed CFE is
[18:02] <sitx> Eagle: [ 99% Flashed] 1fc3fff0:ffffffff:ffffffff:ffffffff:ffffffff
[18:02] <Eagle_Fire> does it stop there?
[18:02] <sitx> Done (CFE.BIN loaded into Flash Memory Ok)
[18:03] <Eagle_Fire> your router should boot now
[18:03] <sitx> nou the led power on off on off
[18:03] <Eagle_Fire> and at the very least ping on 192.168.1.1
[18:03] <Eagle_Fire> sometimes the LED doesn't mean anything
[18:04] <sitx> now not response
[18:06] <sitx> Eagle: the process finished good
[18:06] <sitx> of flashed CFE.BIN
[18:07] <Eagle_Fire> if CFE is properly flashed you might see good diagnostic information on the serial console
[18:09] <sitx> in this moment try by serial console
[18:09] <sitx> i have a problem not have build the cable serial but i can buid this with maxim
[18:09] <Eagle_Fire> yes, or with a cell phone USB cable perhaps
[18:10] <sitx> in theory the NVRAM.BIN and CFE.BIN finished good el flashed
[18:10] <Eagle_Fire> with the benefit that a cell phone usb cable does not need the maxim
[18:10] <Eagle_Fire> sitx, try reading back the nvram.bin and see if it is what you put on
[18:11] <sitx> try read via JTAG the information write in the nvram
[18:11] <sitx> ./wrt54g -backup:nvram
[18:12] <Eagle_Fire> make sure not to overwrite the files you are flashing on
[18:12] <sitx> with hexedit editor view information about nvram
[18:12] <Eagle_Fire> use md5sum to verify that they are the same
[18:16] <AlHaz> -backup typically won't overwrite anything, sticks a big date code on the end of the file name
[18:16] <AlHaz> and diff works fine to tell if they're different
[18:17] Action: AlHaz installed White Russian RC4 on a Microsoft MN-700 the other day
[18:18] <Eagle_Fire> nice
[18:22] <sitx> Eagle: thx for you help, in this moment not working the router, but try again with JTAG and build the serial console cable
[18:23] <sitx> Eagle, where I can seek you
[18:23] <Eagle_Fire> i'm here pretty often
[18:23] <Eagle_Fire> call me out using my full nick, Eagle_Fire so my chat program alerts me
[18:25] <AlHaz> Anybody got any thoughts on switch configuration for this thing?
[18:25] <Eagle_Fire> AlHaz, i don't suppose the wiki page for mn700 has much either?
[18:25] <AlHaz> with microsoft or asus firmware, this thing is accessable through any of the switch ports
[18:25] <AlHaz> Eagle_Fire: hardly anything
[18:25] <AlHaz> with openwrt, it's only accessable through the WAN port
[18:25] <shadows> juergen8: that's a joke, right?
[18:25] <Eagle_Fire> figures, the mn700 is discontinued and difficult to flash
[18:25] <AlHaz> works fine as an access point
[18:26] <Eagle_Fire> alright
[18:26] <shadows> juergen8: you could just limit access by MAC addr
[18:26] <Eagle_Fire> does a vlan1 interface show up?
[18:26] <AlHaz> Nope
[18:26] <AlHaz> Oh, for added difficulty, the et driver doesn't work properly on these
[18:26] <AlHaz> so I'm running the b44 driver
[18:26] <Eagle_Fire> shadows, are you joking? mac address is the easiest security to defeat
[18:26] <sitx> onte last question for any people
[18:27] <sitx> is possible working whith vlan upper 15
[18:27] <Eagle_Fire> why would you want more than 15 vlans
[18:27] <Eagle_Fire> there are only 5 ports on the switch
[18:27] <sitx> is possible have vlan1250
[18:28] <AlHaz> Eagle_Fire: but the thing is using a bcm5325 switch chip, so it should be able to do vlans
[18:28] <sitx> and asign whith robocfg
[18:28] <sitx> yeap
[18:28] <Eagle_Fire> sitx, you shouldn't need more than 5 vlans
[18:29] <AlHaz> I get the vague impression that the b44 driver should be paired with kmod-switch, which doesn't appear to be available in rc4
[18:29] <sitx> yeap, this problem is whith my service internet
[18:29] <[olli]> AlHaz: pre-rc5 image have b44 built into the kernel and the kmod-switch packages installed by default
[18:30] <AlHaz> [olli]: is it considered to be reasonably stable?
[18:30] <sitx> i can crete vlans, by robocfg, vconfig, and ifconfig, but not create id vlan16 or > to 15
[18:31] <[olli]> AlHaz: either get pre-rc5 images from http://downloads.openwrt.org/people/nbd/whiterussian/ or build it yourself from the stable white russian subversion branch
[18:31] <sitx> view the source of robocfg this have variable max_vlan to 15
[18:31] <[olli]> AlHaz: yes, they are stable
[18:31] <AlHaz> Eagle_Fire: Anyway, i wouldn't say it's *difficult to flash, but jtag stuff is old hat for me. I bought the thing for $5 at a thrift store, had to replace a dead capacitor in the power supply. Previous owner just about wore out the reset button on the thing.
[18:31] <sitx> is possible rebuild this code for support vlans > to 15
[18:32] <[olli]> sitx: robocfg and admcfc is obsolete
[18:32] <shadows> Eagle_Fire: that might be true but seriously, who is going to hax0r his box
[18:32] <shadows> Eagle_Fire: if he's so concerned, WPA with TKIP is easy enough to implement on the linksys harware
[18:33] <shadows> s/harwa/hardwa/
[18:33] <Eagle_Fire> he said he's worried about security, so mac filtering was a bad suggestion for him
[18:33] <[olli]> sitx: and btw. the wrt's switch has a max number of 5 vlan's
[18:33] <Eagle_Fire> you implicated that mac address filtering would allay his security fears
[18:33] <Eagle_Fire> and wordlessly lied about mac address security
[18:34] <shadows> Eagle_Fire: okay, i'll grant you that admission, i only meant to implicate it would be a more appropriate solution than using a mouse button to allow any mac to connect
[18:34] <AlHaz> There used to be two wide-open networks right next to me, so all i bothered to do was turn off the essid beacon and use a mac list
[18:34] <shadows> which is - now that i'm thinking about it more - debatable
[18:34] <AlHaz> but that was like 5 years ago
[18:34] <juergen8> shadows: no joke
[18:34] <AlHaz> I can reach something like 8 wireless networks from my house now
[18:34] <shadows> i never uttered the word security
[18:34] <Eagle_Fire> he could move the mouse around to enter the mac to allow
[18:35] <Eagle_Fire> hence 'wordlessly'
[18:35] <AlHaz> and most of them are fairly secure, not that I've tried to hack into them
[18:35] <shadows> AlHaz: big city?
[18:35] <AlHaz> shadows: Not really, no
[18:35] <shadows> fun to see wifi prevelant in most areas
[18:35] <AlHaz> medium density rental property though
[18:36] <AlHaz> shadows: what confuses me is that some of these people don't actually use the wireless networks, near as i can tell
[18:36] <shadows> AlHaz: it's like ... oh gee i'm not sure
[18:37] <shadows> tire bushings
[18:37] <AlHaz> used to have a neighbor with a dlink router that wasn't actually connected to anything
[18:37] <shadows> at a retail store when you sell a computer, you'd get bonus points to sell a computer with wireless
[18:37] <AlHaz> maybe he was using it as a print server or something
[18:37] <shadows> it is irrelevent to the buyer and the salesman whether or not wireless is useful, it is "better"
[18:37] <AlHaz> I used to be able to set my laptop to essid ANY and have it only pick up my lan
[18:37] <AlHaz> so one day i get home and start picking up this other network
[18:37] <AlHaz> which is on the same channel as mine
[18:37] <shadows> yeah
[18:38] <xmt> iwconfig increments "Rx invalid nwid:4752" almost every second. Anyway, the wlan works. What could cause this and what can I do against it?
[18:38] <AlHaz> but doesn't go anywhere
[18:38] <shadows> what's the legality of printing a 1,000 page book on someone's openly accessible samba share over an open shared wifi connection?
[18:38] <AlHaz> gave me a dhcp lease and a default route to nowhere
[18:39] <shadows> xmt: change your essid?
[18:39] <shadows> just a guess
[18:39] <shadows> i really have no idea
[18:39] <AlHaz> He still had the admin interface using the default password
[18:39] <AlHaz> I was tempted to change the password and turn off the wireless . . . .
[18:39] <shadows> it would be interesting to take over wifi hardware
[18:39] <shadows> like a remote flashing of another router fw
[18:40] <J4k3> xmt: it means your radio hears traffic for/from another AP... you're sharing airtime.
[18:40] <Eagle_Fire> shadows: computer trespass in the first degree, malicious mischief as well
[18:40] <shadows> Eagle_Fire: o_O
[18:40] <Eagle_Fire> Class C Felony and I think malicious mischief is a misdemeanor
[18:40] <AlHaz> Yeah it's plenty illegal
[18:40] <AlHaz> the penalties are somewhat harsh
[18:40] <shadows> that's some pretty serious stuff
[18:40] <AlHaz> though it's rare to see them actually enforced
[18:41] <xmt> J4k3, there are two others ap around, but they are on a different channel. so i think, this can not be the cause.
[18:41] <Eagle_Fire> still nice to know what you're getting into :)
[18:41] <J4k3> xmt: ungodly high CRC error count?
[18:41] <shadows> and yet having a zombie virus-infected computer that happens to be connecting to every wifi access point and prints 1,000 page books is legal, huh?
[18:41] <J4k3> and how much different? if its less than 3 channels up/down, you'll get crosstalk
[18:41] <xmt> Link Quality=32/94 Signal level=-63 dBm Noise level=-95 dBm
[18:41] <xmt> Rx invalid nwid:6989 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
[18:41] <xmt> Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0
[18:41] <Eagle_Fire> well then you have plausible ignorance
[18:42] <AlHaz> xmt: I don't always see every lan i can reach
[18:42] <AlHaz> xmt: from a client, execute 'iwlist scan' and see what you can see
[18:42] <xmt> J4k3, i am on channel 11, the other two on 6
[18:42] <Eagle_Fire> if you didn't waste their resources using their printer then the trespass would just be a gross misdemeanor
[18:42] <Eagle_Fire> though i'm no lawyer
[18:42] <J4k3> xmt: you're hearing *something*, I suggest installing kismet and finding out what it is.
[18:42] <AlHaz> fer example, there are two access points on channel 11 that are somewhat near
[18:42] <shadows> i'm still not convinced that ignorance is a socially legitimate excuse for having a many-hundred or many-thousand dollar piece of equipment going apeshit on the neighboring environment of technical equpiment
[18:42] <Eagle_Fire> or wi-viz!
[18:43] <Eagle_Fire> maybe not socially legitimate
[18:43] <Eagle_Fire> but it is legally legitimate
[18:43] <AlHaz> but they don't show up unless i configure my old access point on channel 11
[18:43] <shadows> hm
[18:43] <xmt> can I change the channel on the fly? how?
[18:43] <shadows> xmt: channels 1 6 and 11 are the most used
[18:43] <Eagle_Fire> nvram set wl0_channel=4; wifi up
[18:43] <xmt> Eagle_Fire, will clients survive sthis?
[18:44] <AlHaz> it's weird RF stuff, sometimes a signal can ride on another transmitter's carrier
[18:44] <Eagle_Fire> it will boot clients but wireless cards are nice enough to try to reconnect before telling the OS they disconnected
[18:44] <xmt> ok, thank you all
[18:45] <Eagle_Fire> no, thank you
[18:45] <ekkaia> hey
[18:45] <J4k3> not all devices are made equally, either... I can hear the dlink crap AP in my office from channel 1 to 5, I can hear the SR2 on my tower (which creates several times more tx power) only on the specific channel its set for.
[18:45] <ekkaia> i cant get a pptp vpn connection to work under openwrt (from a wireless client)
[18:45] <ekkaia> any ideas why this can be ?
[18:45] <shadows> J4k3: any pictures of the