OpenWrt

[00:03] <z3ro> hmm... I suppose I should stop lazing around and get porting the wag54g code from 2.4.17 to 2.4.30...
[00:05] <cliffstah> so the broadcom driver that openwrt uses
[00:05] <cliffstah> could that be ported (and modified) to serve as a native Broadcom driver for Linux clients?
[00:06] <Dabian> cliffstah: Why do you say that?
[00:06] <cliffstah> because currently Linux has no broadcom driver
[00:06] <cliffstah> ndiswrapper is still required
[00:06] <Dabian> What is a broadcom driver?
[00:06] <cliffstah> broadcom is a company that makes chips
[00:06] <Dabian> yeah
[00:06] <Dabian> They make the OpenWRT chip for instance.
[00:07] <cliffstah> which is pretty much what I implied already
[00:07] <cliffstah> oO
[00:07] <Eagle_Fire> well the broadcom driver is binary-only
[00:07] <Eagle_Fire> as in, we do not have the source
[00:07] <Dabian> cliffstah: Well .. I just joined .. maybe I missed something.
[00:07] <cliffstah> I see, but I thought a new driver wa being developed?
[00:07] <cliffstah> was*
[00:07] <Eagle_Fire> it is
[00:07] <cliffstah> ah ok
[00:07] <cliffstah> then my question stands :P
[00:08] <Eagle_Fire> but it's still in the reverse-engineering stage
[00:08] <Dabian> cliffstah: When its done, most likely.
[00:08] <cliffstah> once completed, could that be ported and modified to serve as a driver for broadcom client cards?
[00:08] <Dabian> But which chip are we talking about?
[00:08] <Dabian> If I am mistaken, broadcom only makes one chip.
[00:08] <Eagle_Fire> they make bunches
[00:09] <Eagle_Fire> open up your WRT and look how many chips have the broadcom logo on them
[00:09] Action: inh wonders where to moutn his sd slot
[00:09] <cliffstah> Dabian: arent you the guy who was trying to get OpenWRT set up the other day?
[00:09] <inh> btw, anyone here into rock climbing?
[00:09] <Dabian> cliffstah: Its running now :)
[00:09] <cliffstah> Dabian: just wondering why you're giving me advice :P
[00:09] <cliffstah> since I dont think (might be wrong) you're one of the wrt devs :P
[00:09] <nbd> inh: tried it a few times. it was fun
[00:09] <Dabian> cliffstah: not yet anyhow.
[00:10] <Dabian> cliffstah: If you don't want my advise, I shall withheld it.
[00:10] <Eagle_Fire> holy crap
[00:10] <inh> nbd, i gotta readup on echniques so my dad will give me his gear
[00:10] <cliffstah> Dabian: no no, that wasnt the point - you just kinda jumped in and I don't really nkow who you are ;)
[00:10] <Eagle_Fire> the little module inside my USB gps module
[00:10] <Eagle_Fire> is like 1.25 inches square by 3/8 inch thick
[00:10] <cliffstah> anyone could say "yeah thats poss" or "no, its the wrong chip" and I wouldnt know whether to believe them or not
[00:10] <Eagle_Fire> it could fit bloody inside my wireless router
[00:10] <cliffstah> so I was asking ppl close to the dev side of things :)
[00:11] <inh> hehe
[00:11] <inh> Eagle_Fire, what gps?
[00:11] <Dabian> cliffstah: Right. I was just trying to figure out which chip you want a driver in linux for.
[00:11] Action: inh jumps up and starts tearing parat his gps.. again....
[00:11] <Dabian> I don't even know which chips are in the wrt.
[00:11] <cliffstah> Dabian: I dont want a driver for any chip, personally .. I'm getting shot of broadcom/marvell etc and getting a 3com with a Prism chip
[00:11] <Eagle_Fire> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5774654387&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT
[00:12] <Eagle_Fire> the plastic casing was a bitch to open though
[00:12] <Dabian> ok
[00:12] <cliffstah> but since there is working going on here to produce a Broadcom driver, it could be very useful for the rest of the linux community that do want a native driver :)
[00:12] <Eagle_Fire> had to use a laser pointer to see through it enough to find where to use a vice to drive a thumbtack in, thereby releasing the clamp that was keeping it shut
[00:12] <inh> pretty similar to mine
[00:12] <inh> mine was glued shut
[00:13] <cliffstah> mm next thing on my list of toys to buy is a GPS ;)
[00:13] <Eagle_Fire> that one was $60 total
[00:13] <Eagle_Fire> not sure how much they go for in eur
[00:13] <inh> mien was 80 new
[00:13] <inh> i wonderif theres serial data in there
[00:13] <inh> or if il have to use a convertor
[00:13] <cliffstah> wow thats a tiny oe
[00:13] <Eagle_Fire> mine comes with serial data
[00:13] <inh> mines usb
[00:14] <Eagle_Fire> it terminates in a PS2 port and it came with an adaptor
[00:14] <Eagle_Fire> which is just a PL2303 usb-serial bridge
[00:14] <Eagle_Fire> (linux compatible!)
[00:14] <cliffstah> nice
[00:14] <inh> bastard
[00:14] <inh> :p
[00:14] <cliffstah> Im gonna do lots of research before I buy
[00:14] <Eagle_Fire> though i don't use linux
[00:14] <cliffstah> I tried to with the wireless cards, but I goofed
[00:14] <Eagle_Fire> poor bastard
[00:15] <cliffstah> so Ill be going back to broadcom till the mid of next week when my prism arrives ;)
[00:16] Action: inh hopes theres some usb/serial convertor in his gps
[00:18] <Eagle_Fire> there probably is
[00:18] <Eagle_Fire> what does the device come up as?
[00:18] <Dabian> Can I use the wrt for my camera?
[00:18] <inh> a serial gps
[00:19] <Dabian> I think the "original" ASUS firmware had something for that.
[00:19] <Eagle_Fire> in windows?
[00:19] <inh> hell if i know
[00:19] <inh> i dont use it
[00:19] <Eagle_Fire> thought you dualbooted
[00:19] <Eagle_Fire> or was that someone else
[00:20] <cliffstah> <-
[00:20] <Eagle_Fire> ah yes, the one and only
[00:20] <inh> i used to
[00:20] <Dabian> inh: heck is nicer.
[00:20] <Eagle_Fire> what driver runs it in linux then, can you tell
[00:21] <cliffstah> dual booting is a dream now Linux has proper hibernate support :]
[00:21] <Eagle_Fire> i remember you saying that
[00:21] <Dabian> whats `proper hibernate support' ?
[00:21] <inh> i dindt use linux drivers
[00:21] <inh> i used gpsd
[00:21] <inh> which i WILL port to openwrt
[00:21] <cliffstah> Dabian: hibernate that works
[00:21] <cliffstah> swsusp2
[00:21] <inh> unless someone wants to do it for me
[00:22] <Dabian> cliffstah: Whats hibernate?
[00:22] <cliffstah> suspend to disk
[00:22] <Eagle_Fire> gpsd isn't a device driver
[00:22] <cliffstah> Dabian: I can run linux, hibernate, go into windows, do something there, hibernate, then go back to linux and resume exactly where I was
[00:22] <Dabian> cliffstah: Like qem?
[00:22] <Dabian> qemu, even.
[00:22] <cliffstah> er?
[00:22] <cliffstah> what's qemu?
[00:23] <Dabian> cliffstah: You're talking about an emulator, right?
[00:23] <cliffstah> no
[00:23] <cliffstah> I'm talking about hibernation, e.g. suspend to disk
[00:23] <Dabian> $ whatis qemu
[00:23] <Dabian> qemu (1) - QEMU System Emulator
[00:23] <Dabian> cliffstah: Like Xen?
[00:23] <cliffstah> ...
[00:23] <inh> gpsd read from the serial ports
[00:23] <inh> thats all i has to do
[00:23] <Dabian> cliffstah: oh wait
[00:23] <cliffstah> I think you're missing the point ;)
[00:23] <cliffstah> www.suspend2.net
[00:23] <Dabian> cliffstah: You mean like a laptop
[00:24] <cliffstah> Dabian: not just laptops, hibernate works (and is useful) on all platforms
[00:24] <Dabian> cliffstah: Turn the OS off and on without rebooting
[00:24] <inh> ok got the gps unit out
[00:24] <inh> out of the metal enclosure it was buried in
[00:24] <cliffstah> almost, butnot quite... allows you to turn off your computer and leave your OS in a state that you can return to
[00:25] <inh> whoa
[00:25] <inh> its got a max 3226
[00:25] <Dabian> cliffstah: Nice. Maybe I can use that if I get to the point where I can actually turn off my computer on a regular basis.
[00:25] <inh> i think it may be raw serial data out
[00:25] <inh> jsut with a usb connector on it..
[00:25] <cliffstah> Dabian: oh I have computers I never turn off, but this is a laptop .. not a good idea to leave it running 24/7 ;)
[00:26] <cliffstah> my games box hibernates, takes about 8-10 secs to resume
[00:26] <cliffstah> & my server is always on
[00:26] <Dabian> cliffstah: Right .. but this computer I hardly ever turn off, even though its my desktop computer.
[00:27] <Dabian> I need to find a sollution to my mail .. then I will be able to turn it off when I dont use it
[00:27] <cliffstah> then I guess you don't need hibernate ;)
[00:27] <Dabian> not now :)
[00:28] <Dabian> Also, I only run one OS.
[00:28] <Dabian> Debian GNU/Linux.
[00:28] Action: Eagle_Fire hibernates
[00:28] <inh> hehe
[00:28] <[mbm]> inh: most gps devices are serial with a usb converter
[00:28] Action: inh digs deeper into his gps
[00:28] <cliffstah> I have 2 Gentoo installs, and 2 XP installs
[00:28] <inh> thats what im htinking [mbm]
[00:28] <Dabian> I have both woody, sarge and bo installations though.
[00:29] <cliffstah> I have a couple of doorstops around here too
[00:29] <cliffstah> an old Beige G3 :]
[00:29] <inh> [mbm], i dont see anyhting that looks liek a usb chip...
[00:30] <Dabian> Does OpenWRT have better support for digital cameras than plain linux?
[00:32] <[mbm]> inh: usually inline with the cable
[00:32] <Dabian> (Sounds unlikely .. but you never know)
[00:32] <inh> there is a max2336
[00:32] <[mbm]> Dabian: umm no...
[00:32] <inh> *max3226
[00:33] <Dabian> [mbm]: ok :)
[00:33] <inh> its a serial interface chip
[00:33] <inh> but i dunno.. its a usb cable :/
[00:34] <inh> theres the sirf gpd chip, the max serial chip, sram chip, flash chip, and some risc microcontroller imstill looking up
[00:38] <cliffstah> lol uhhh
[00:38] <cliffstah> Dabian Does OpenWRT have better support for digital cameras than plain linux?
[00:39] <cliffstah> are you quite mad? ;)
[00:39] <Dabian> cliffstah: Why? It does have better support for broadcom chips, no?
[00:39] <ixs> uhm.
[00:39] <ixs> that's a nice idea, installing openwrt on my laptop...
[00:39] <cliffstah> no, apparently it doesnt :]
[00:39] <ixs> as it has a b44 as well...
[00:39] <cliffstah> it has a binary driver that already exists
[00:40] <cliffstah> it *will* have better support, when the guys finish reverse engineering it
[00:40] <cliffstah> just seemed like a funny question that was all ;)
[00:40] <cliffstah> like, does openwrt have better video card support
[00:40] <Dabian> cliffstah: Is that legal?
[00:41] <ixs> Dabian: yes. and the way the guys are doing it there is no questioning the legality.
[00:41] <cliffstah> probably not, but they'll be ok if they dont use the reverse engineered code
[00:41] <nbd> reverse engineering is legal, just publishing the result isn't
[00:41] <cliffstah> and simply is as a guide
[00:41] <cliffstah> use*
[00:41] <nbd> but you can use the reverse engineered source to derive hardware specs
[00:41] <nbd> and then write a real driver
[00:41] <cliffstah> ^^ ;)
[00:41] <cliffstah> what he said
[00:41] <ixs> nbd: no sorry, you're wrong. even publishing the specs you found is completely legal. even under the dmca as it does contain a rev eng clause for interoperability.
[00:42] <cliffstah> reverse engineering is fun
[00:42] <nbd> ixs: publishing the specs might be, but the reverse engineered source must not be published
[00:42] <nbd> ixs: becaue that one is a derived work of the original product
[00:42] <Dabian> ixs: No need to be sorry .. we should be happy if the law is like this. Are you from same country as nbd?
[00:42] <ixs> nbd: ahhh. that you were referring to.
[00:43] <ixs> Dabian: dunno where nbd is from. /me is from germany, where the rev eng laws are quite lax, and rightly so...
[00:43] Action: nbd is from germany :)
[00:43] <ixs> hallo nbd. ;-D
[00:43] <cliffstah> hehe
[00:43] <inh> hehe
[00:43] <cliffstah> you guys arent too far away :]
[00:43] <cliffstah> england here
[00:43] Action: inh may have to integrate hisgps into his router case
[00:44] <Dabian> Warum sprechen wir english, wenn alle heir doch deutch sprechen? :)
[00:44] <Dabian> s/ei/ie/
[00:44] <nbd> Dabian: es sprechen eben nicht alle hier deutsch
[00:44] <nbd> so back to english...
[00:44] <Dabian> nbd: Wer tut es nich?
[00:44] <Dabian> t
[00:45] <nbd> Dabian: [mbm] at least, there are many other people who don't speak german
[00:45] <ixs> nbd: publishing the reverse engineered code should be possible as a diff maybe. something along the lines of: take ida pro, disassemble the following binary, save the code and then apply our patch which adds documentation and comments to your assembler code...
[00:45] <nbd> Dabian: this is an international channel
[00:45] <nbd> ixs: no, the patch still contains a lot of the disassembled code
[00:45] <Dabian> nbd: Well, in that case we better stay mainly deutch ^H^H* English. :-)
[00:45] <nbd> ixs: so it's still a derived work
[00:45] <nbd> Dabian: :)
[00:46] <Dabian> I spell even worse in german anyhow. :-P
[00:47] <ixs> nbd: nah. just the docs to the functions. the code itself has to be gained by starting ida pro yourself... however, the point is moot. ;-D
[00:48] <cliffstah> fight fight!
[00:48] <Dabian> ixs: Thats impossible.
[00:48] <cliffstah> hmm Im still nervous about installing openwrt on my new router lol .. I hate this part, the unknown
[00:48] <Dabian> ixs: Uhm... very unlikey.. even.
[00:48] <Dabian> cliffstah: Which router?
[00:49] <cliffstah> oh i know it'll be fine
[00:49] <ixs> Dabian: ahh, okay. You're referring to the chunks of disassembled code in the path file itself? true, didn't think about that.
[00:49] <cliffstah> its a WRT54G v2.2
[00:49] <cliffstah> I just havent done it yet
[00:49] <cliffstah> after the first time it'll be cool ;)
[00:49] <inh> Eagle_Fire, ping
[00:49] <Dabian> cliffstah: Don't you want to get rid of the stock firmware?
[00:49] <cliffstah> sure I do, that isn't the problem :P
[00:49] <cliffstah> the stock firmware sucs
[00:49] <cliffstah> sucks*
[00:50] <cliffstah> the problem is me and my nerves :P
[00:50] <ixs> cliffstah: wanna come over and practice a bit? there are still 14 wrt54gs boxes here waiting to be flashed and configured. :-D
[00:50] <cliffstah> I dont have much money, so if I screw it - Im screwed :P
[00:50] <cliffstah> ixs: nice, I'll be right over ;)
[00:50] <Dabian> cliffstah: Don't worry about those, just make a printout of the troubleshooting .. and if anything goes wrong, don't hurry.
[00:50] <ixs> cliffstah: house der wirtschaft, stuttgart. go to the gnome conference there. ;-D
[00:50] <cliffstah> yeah Im cool with it Dabian, after Ive done it once I wont be fussed @ all :)
[00:51] <cliffstah> ixs: lol uhh might take me a while to get there :)
[00:51] <cliffstah> I'd prolly have to walk
[00:51] <Dabian> cliffstah: Its faster than a visit at the dentist.
[00:51] <cliffstah> and swim
[00:51] <cliffstah> Dabian: dont talk about dentists.
[00:51] <Dabian> hehe
[00:51] <cliffstah> I have a visit coming soon and I know its not good
[00:51] <cliffstah> its about 11 years since I went
[00:52] <cliffstah> ixs: its not as much fun, but send me the WRT's and I'll send them back configured :P
[00:52] <cliffstah> prolly cheaper that way :P
[00:52] <cliffstah> ooh unless I sent myself in a box
[00:53] <cliffstah> I could sit on a bed of helium balloons to make myself lighter
[00:53] <Dabian> cliffstah: Lemme get this straight - you have configured boxes for other people, but not yourself?
[00:53] <cliffstah> no
[00:53] <cliffstah> I have for myself
[00:53] <cliffstah> havent for other people
[00:53] <cliffstah> but this is a *new* router :]
[00:53] <cliffstah> I had a WBR-54G
[00:54] <cliffstah> took it back, kept rebooting itself, and bought a WRT instead
[00:54] <cliffstah> so its new territory for me, only a little - but Im (naturally) a little scared of breaking it ;)
[00:54] <Dabian> You didn't have OpenWRT on the old one?
[00:54] <cliffstah> yup I did
[00:54] <cliffstah> its broadcom
[00:55] <Dabian> Was that why it kept rebooting itself?
[00:55] <cliffstah> no
[00:55] <cliffstah> well
[00:55] <cliffstah> partly
[00:55] <Dabian> heh
[00:55] <cliffstah> different cause, similar symptoms
[00:55] <cliffstah> under openwrt, it would reboot under heavy traffic in a few seconds
[00:55] <inh> [mbm], pretty sure the gps unit outputs raw serial
[00:55] <cliffstah> with the stock firmware, it reboots itself every 10-15 mins for no reason
[00:55] <inh> and on the usb cable, there i sa serial to usb convertor
[00:55] <cliffstah> in use or not
[00:55] <Dabian> cliffstah: No apparent reason
[00:56] <Dabian> cliffstah: There allways is a reason, I guess.
[00:56] <Dabian> cliffstah: Maybe the watchdog
[00:56] <cliffstah> sure, but that was implied - like most human conversation, and often doesn't need commentary
[00:56] <Dabian> cliffstah: Right
[00:57] <Dabian> Humans are very inprecise.
[00:57] <cliffstah> quite
[00:57] <cliffstah> but we can either go around correcting people and lowering our popularity, or we can learn to accept it ;)
[00:58] <Dabian> cliffstah: I waited a whole day before flashing mine.
[00:58] <cliffstah> hehe
[00:59] <cliffstah> I think I will probably do that too, I still dont feel ready
[00:59] <Dabian> cliffstah: I wanted to be sure that everything worked, before voiding the warrenty.
[00:59] <cliffstah> yeah thats it
[00:59] <cliffstah> I got away with it with the Buffalo
[00:59] <cliffstah> the guy didnt even check it was in the box oO
[00:59] <cliffstah> I could have given him a box with a brick in it
[00:59] <Dabian> heh
[00:59] <cliffstah> in hindsight
[01:00] <cliffstah> I should have "forgotten" to put the cardbus card back in the box
[01:00] <cliffstah> they wont do anything with it, its nearly a year old
[01:00] <cliffstah> (gotta love 12 month warranties)
[01:00] <Dabian> That would be close to theft, but I know what you mean. You could use the extra cardbus card.
[01:00] <cliffstah> lol
[01:01] <cliffstah> charging ?10 for a 1 meter ethernet cable is daylight robbery ;)
[01:01] <Dabian> cliffstah: In the states you would most likely be shot for it the first week. :-)
[01:01] <cliffstah> fortunately for me, I dont live in the states :P
[01:02] <Dabian> No .. I mean for charging 10 quits for a 1 meter cable ;-)
[01:02] <cliffstah> haha
[01:02] <cliffstah> well, this is PC world we're talking about
[01:02] <cliffstah> their prices are stupid, but they are local .. there are so few proper hardware shops
[01:03] <cliffstah> hence they can charge ?10 for a 1 meter cable ;)
[01:03] <Dabian> PC world == he will be shot with a nailgun? :-)
[01:03] <cliffstah> not until there is someone else to take their place, please :P
[01:03] <Dabian> mail order
[01:03] <cliffstah> returns are too fiddly
[01:04] <cliffstah> I like being able to walk up to the desk and say "Oi, this doesnt work"
[01:04] <cliffstah> rather than redirected to a callcenter in india
[01:05] <Dabian> If the shopowner knows you're going to play indians and cowboys with his kids and a gas pistol, he is likely to be very coorperative. :)
[01:05] <cliffstah> lol
[01:06] <cliffstah> they generally dont argue @ the shop
[01:06] <cliffstah> like I'll take this card back and swap it for a Buffalo toay
[01:06] <Dabian> I got most of my hardware mail order .. havn't really had any trouble, frankly.
[01:06] <cliffstah> with a mail order company, they'd more likely say "Well, it works in windows .. we never said it'd work in Linux .. tough"
[01:07] <ixs> cliffstah: hmmm. You know, they have to be finished by tonight. think the post is that fast?
[01:07] <cliffstah> ixs: damn erm.. got a private yet?
[01:07] <cliffstah> er .. jet :)
[01:07] <Dabian> cliffstah: Sounds like you have yourself a nice shop.
[01:08] <cliffstah> all except the prices :]
[01:08] <cliffstah> well, having said that
[01:08] <cliffstah> they are cheaper if you buy online, but you can still take it back to the store
[01:08] <cliffstah> which is kinda cool
[01:09] <cliffstah> heh this card is still fugging with my keyboard
[01:09] <ixs> uhm. new question: i have got to put an experimental wrt into client mode. the docs on openwrt.org use wl for that. on the experimental version iwconfig is the way to go, right?
[01:09] <Dabian> cliffstah: Here we actually have better conditions if we buy online.
[01:09] <Dabian> cliffstah: 7 days full refound, no reason.
[01:09] <inh> mwuhahaha
[01:10] <inh> im puttin my gps in my router
[01:10] <inh> :p
[01:10] <cliffstah> oh we have a cooling off period already
[01:10] <cliffstah> but its not 7 days
[01:10] <cliffstah> inh :P
[01:10] <cliffstah> freak :P
[01:10] <inh> meh
[01:10] <inh> might not put it IN, but on top
[01:10] <inh> on the sccessory serial connection
[01:10] <inh> i dunno yet
[01:10] <cliffstah> what you gonna do with it then?
[01:10] <Dabian> inh: Did you kille your motha yet?
[01:11] <Dabian> Or was that someone else?
[01:11] <inh> not yet
[01:11] <inh> but i will for a datasheet
[01:11] <Dabian> inh: She's not gonna love the idea, you know?
[01:11] <cliffstah> ok about to pop the laptop off the docking station .. wish me luck
[01:11] <inh> dun care
[01:12] <Dabian> inh: She might even try to resist you ...
[01:12] <cliffstah> am I still here?
[01:12] <inh> no
[01:12] <cliffstah> wow, didnt crash oO
[01:12] <Dabian> inh: Do you think you can handle her?
[01:12] <inh> oh yea
[01:12] <inh> shes afraid of me
[01:12] <Dabian> cliffstah: Yes you did, we're talking to a figment of our imagination.
[01:12] <cliffstah> damn
[01:12] <cliffstah> well hopefully Ill be back up and running in a few mins
[01:12] <Dabian> cliffstah: Don't worry, I am just joking :)
[01:13] <Dabian> :-P
[01:13] <Dabian> inh: You allready her piece of you?
[01:13] <inh> no
[01:13] <Dabian> Gave her a piece of you, even.
[01:14] <inh> but we were arguingonce, i stood up (6'3") and she got scared (5'4" or something)
[01:14] <inh> na i gave your mom a piece of me tho
[01:14] <inh> :p
[01:14] <inh> just playin
[01:14] <cliffstah> Dabian: nooo really? I thought you were serious.. :P
[01:14] <Dabian> cliffstah: Hehe :)
[01:15] <Dabian> cliffstah: You better check .. I could be playing with you still ;-)
[01:15] <cliffstah> anyone remmeber where udev is in the kernel menuconfig?
[01:15] <cliffstah> lol
[01:15] Action: cliffstah pinches self
[01:16] <z3ro> find . -name Config.in -or -name Kconfig | xargs grep "udev"
[01:16] <z3ro> :p
[01:16] <inh> z3ro, build your jtag :p
[01:16] <z3ro> inh: I will, as soon as I can get the parts...
[01:17] <z3ro> which will be in about 11hours.
[01:17] <cliffstah> hmm nothing
[01:17] <cliffstah> except "devfs has been obseleted by udev"
[01:17] <z3ro> hmm, odd.
[01:17] <cliffstah> ahh
[01:18] <cliffstah> its ok
[01:18] <cliffstah> udev is userspace
[01:18] <z3ro> oops... I didn't think of that myself. :p
[01:18] <cliffstah> :]
[01:19] <cliffstah> just need hotplug/coldplug
[01:19] <cliffstah> right, into the garden I go .. time for a smoke before I go take this POS wifi card back
[01:20] <inh> hehe
[01:21] Action: inh wires a kitchen sink to spare gpio pins
[01:21] <cliffstah> then its time to install openwrt ;)
[01:21] <inh> router is done
[01:21] <cliffstah> woo
[01:21] <cliffstah> so
[01:21] <cliffstah> how useful is a gps stuck to a router btw?
[01:22] <cliffstah> (curious what yer gonna do with it)
[01:22] <inh> thats a good question
[01:22] <inh> wish i had an answer
[01:22] <cliffstah> lol
[01:22] <cliffstah> :P
[01:22] <cliffstah> Ill try to think of somethiing for you
[01:22] <inh> ask Eagle_Fire
[01:22] <inh> heknows
[01:22] <inh> i gotta add somethign
[01:23] <inh> i want a lcd
[01:23] <cliffstah> for a start you'll never lose your router again if your room gets in a mess
[01:23] <inh> but i dont have
[01:23] <inh> got a gps tho
[01:23] <cliffstah> you can just have it tell you
[01:23] <inh> true that
[01:23] <cliffstah> if someone steals your router, you can knock on their door and get it back
[01:23] <inh> hehe yea
[01:23] <cliffstah> um
[01:23] <inh> question is, how do i ge the data from the gps?
[01:23] <inh> :p
[01:23] <cliffstah> i cant think of anything else :]
[01:23] <cliffstah> haha hmm good point
[01:23] <inh> a cell modem would be sexy
[01:24] <cliffstah> woah
[01:24] <inh> sparkfun.com
[01:24] <cliffstah> I have an old phone I can send you :P
[01:24] <inh> the have serial cell phones
[01:24] <phedny> or build in that it only works at your place and when coordinates change, echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ip_forwarding
[01:24] <cliffstah> 2 old phones
[01:24] <cliffstah> a Sony J5 and a Nokia 3310
[01:24] <inh> ok :)
[01:24] <inh> i love technology
[01:24] <inh> you serious?
[01:24] <cliffstah> sure, they arent being used .. will prolly get thrown out otherwise
[01:25] <inh> where do you live?
[01:25] <cliffstah> england :]
[01:25] <inh> well that sucks
[01:25] <cliffstah> nah it rocks!
[01:25] <cliffstah> well hmm
[01:25] <cliffstah> cant cost that much to send stuff overseas :]
[01:25] <cliffstah> they're only little
[01:25] <inh> well
[01:26] <cliffstah> depends if you want the power adaptors too as to the cost I guess ;)
[01:26] <inh> i could send 2 phones in a USPS global envelope for liek 13usd
[01:26] <cliffstah> its all done by weight
[01:27] <inh> here in the US we have flat rate envelopes
[01:27] <cliffstah> ah
[01:27] <inh> well id love the power adaptors too :p
[01:27] <inh> pack em up and lemme know
[01:27] <inh> id really like to have em
[01:27] <cliffstah> hehe yeah of course, I was jokin :P
[01:27] <cliffstah> ok I will ;)
[01:27] <cliffstah> Ill go to the post office and find out how much they'll cost to send
[01:27] <inh> serioiulsy? awesome :)
[01:27] <cliffstah> :]
[01:27] <inh> im gonna put ont in my wrt
[01:27] <cliffstah> haha
[01:27] <inh> router phone home
[01:27] <cliffstah> on 1 condition
[01:28] <cliffstah> you take lots of photos :P
[01:28] <inh> oh hell yea
[01:28] <cliffstah> hehe
[01:28] <inh> im already dyin to get a cam and some pics of the sdf card and serial ports
[01:29] <cliffstah> that would be awesome
[01:29] <cliffstah> esp. if you slapped a battery pack on the router
[01:29] <cliffstah> totally standalone router, wireless to GSM etc
[01:29] <cliffstah> the phones should work for you btw, they're tri-band
[01:30] <cliffstah> euro/us/asia i think
[01:30] <inh> i plan on doin the battery pack :p
[01:30] <cliffstah> haha
[01:30] <inh> sweeet
[01:30] <inh> i need a phone anyways hehe
[01:30] <inh> tri badn will work great
[01:30] <inh> well i gotta run
[01:30] <cliffstah> the battery on the nokia needs replacing
[01:30] <inh> gf wants cuddle time
[01:30] <cliffstah> k hf ;)
[01:30] <inh> always
[01:30] <cliffstah> "cuddles" ?
[01:30] <cliffstah> ;)
[01:30] <inh> thanks again man :)
[01:30] <cliffstah> lol thank me when Ive sent them
[01:30] <inh> ok
[01:31] <inh> estimated shipping cost?
[01:31] <cliffstah> i cant wait to see this router :P
[01:31] <inh> its a nightmare atm
[01:31] <cliffstah> hmm ill see if I can find an estimate online, think I can
[01:31] <inh> ok
[01:31] <inh> ill check back to the chat in a few mins
[01:31] <cliffstah> :]
[01:32] <cliffstah> oh wow
[01:32] <cliffstah> it wont cost much at all
[01:32] <cliffstah> between ?3 and ?5
[01:33] <cliffstah> all depends how heavy they are
[01:33] <cliffstah> http://www.postoffice.co.uk/portal/po/content1?catId=400036&mediaId=400347
[01:33] <cliffstah> world zone 1
[01:35] <inh> awesoem
[01:35] <inh> i can afford that
[01:35] <inh> back to the gf
[01:35] <cliffstah> haha
[01:35] <cliffstah> ;-)
[01:35] <cliffstah> dont leave her hangin
[01:35] <inh> we'll talk mre tomorow k?
[01:35] <inh> hehe i wont
[01:36] <cliffstah> er .. more innuendo than intended
[01:36] <inh> or she'll leave me hanging ;)
[01:36] <cliffstah> :P
[01:36] <inh> later
[01:36] <heka> is it posible to reflash my wrt54g for the second time?
[01:36] <cliffstah> hf ;)
[01:36] <cliffstah> heka: sure
[01:37] <heka> cliffstah: do I need to configure any thing extra like boot_wait or something?
[01:37] <cliffstah> heka: im no expert, but if you cant get into it you'll need to failsafe it (in the docs)
[01:37] <cliffstah> heka: really you are best off asking someone like Eagle_Fire
[01:37] <z3ro> hmm, damn it... none of the good electronics shops will be open on the weekend, so I have to wait for monday before I can get jtag. :(
[01:37] <_fallen_> heka : nvram set boot_wait=on
[01:37] <_fallen_> nvram commit;
[01:37] <cliffstah> z3ro :[
[01:37] <heka> _fallen_: from the command line?
[01:38] <_fallen_> yeap
[01:38] <_fallen_> telnet or ssh
[01:38] <heka> _fallen_, cliffstah: thanks!
[01:38] <cliffstah> at least you have decent electronics shops z3ro ;)
[01:39] <z3ro> hmm, yeah, which is surprising for nz.
[01:43] <haa42> i have a wrt54gs 1.1
[01:44] <haa42> the experimental jffs2 image is not booting , but the squashfs is working
[01:44] <haa42> any ideas ?
[01:46] <haa42> anyone has a wrt54gs 1.1 with the jffs2.bin image loaded successfully ?
[01:47] <wbx> hmm, just yesterday
[01:47] <wbx> without any problems.
[01:48] <z3ro> wbx: hi
[01:48] <wbx> it now works by a friend as a dsl router
[01:48] <wbx> z3ro: hiho
[01:48] <z3ro> did anyone tell you, I got the kernel booting now. :)
[01:48] <wbx> z3ro: nbd will integrate some buildroot changes, which gave as the ability to integrate ti board support ..
[01:48] <z3ro> z3ro.geek.nz/wag54g_2005-05-28
[01:48] <heka> I have reflashed the wrt54g but I got all the stuff I had before, is it posible to format and reflash it?
[01:48] <wbx> z3ro: nice
[01:49] <wbx> heka: mtd -r -e linux write yourimage linux
[01:50] <wbx> heka: will erase kernel and filesystem before rewrite
[01:50] <z3ro> wbx: I've also got a change log here, which should help to move from .17 to .30
[01:50] <wbx> z3ro: cool. where it is?
[01:50] <heka> wbx: Thx
[01:50] <z3ro> wbx: the change log, give me a second and I'll scp it to the server.
[01:51] <z3ro> wbx: z3ro.geek.nz/ChangeLog
[01:52] <z3ro> the changelog itself is pretty messy, but it's a complete list... made with cvs2cl.
[01:54] <wbx> z3ro: it is okay..
[01:54] <nbd> re
[01:54] <wbx> z3ro: does tiadm.o works with your kernel?
[01:55] <cliffstah> z3ro: what you working on?
[01:55] <z3ro> wbx: tiatm.o? I have no idea, the kernel just boots up and gets to the panic when it can't mount a rootfs.
[01:55] <z3ro> I need to flash a rootfs and check some stuff. :)
[01:55] <nbd> z3ro: you can try attaching an initrd
[01:56] <nbd> z3ro: then maybe you don't have to reflash all the time
[01:56] <nbd> z3ro: adam2 can get the kernel from tftp, right?
[01:56] <cliffstah> z3ro: ah, adding support for the wag?
[01:56] <z3ro> nbd: adam2 uses ftp, and yes, it can load it into ram and execute. :)
[01:56] <z3ro> I'll probably flash the linksys rootfs onto it...
[01:56] <z3ro> just for testing
[01:56] <nbd> k
[01:57] <wbx> z3ro: can you document how you use adam2 to load stuff?
[01:57] <z3ro> wbx: http://www.seattlewireless.net/index.cgi/DlinkDslG604t
[01:57] <wbx> z3ro: how to load from ftp or flash. just some shot notes..
[01:58] <wbx> nbd: feel free to commit your changes..
[01:58] <nbd> wbx: k. i'll do that. will check cvs stuff thoroughly first
[01:59] <nbd> wbx: i don't want it to fuck up my stuff
[01:59] <z3ro> wbx: that page shows how to load the kernel or rootfs to flash, if you want to only load the kernel into ram, you would do like:
[01:59] <z3ro> ftp 192.168.1.1
[01:59] <z3ro> (login with adam2/adam2)
[01:59] <z3ro> bin
[01:59] <z3ro> put ram_zimage.bin
[01:59] <wbx> nbd: do not forget cvs -ko add for the patches
[01:59] <z3ro> wbx: then adam2 would boot the kernel from ram. :)
[01:59] <nbd> wbx: right... almost forgot that
[02:00] <wbx> nbd: and check the resulting image at least on one router
[02:01] <nbd> wbx: i did
[02:01] <nbd> wbx: it worked
[02:01] <z3ro> so... stuff to do for the wag54g: move to 2.4.30, make patches. after that's done I'll probably try porting yamon... since I will have jtag soon (monday, once the shops open and I can get the components.)
[02:01] <haa42> the default ip with the jffs2 image is also 192.168.1.1 ?
[02:01] <wbx> z3ro: yamon is what?
[02:01] <z3ro> wbx: mips' bootloader.
[02:02] <z3ro> wbx: http://www.mips.com/sitemap/content/Products/SoftwareTools/content_html/yamon
[02:02] <wbx> you want to remove adam2 ? why?
[02:02] <z3ro> wbx: adam2 is a pain... it does not have a proper history, like you would in say a bash shell.
[02:02] <z3ro> plus, I want to play with yamon. :)
[02:02] <wbx> z3ro: if a user needs to replace the bootloader before he can use openwrt, it would be bad.
[02:03] <z3ro> wbx: I don't intend this for openwrt, I'm doing it because of my own curiosity.
[02:04] <wbx> z3ro: ah, okay :}
[02:04] <z3ro> I'll just make damn sure I have a backup image of adam2. :p
[02:05] <z3ro> though that's not really an issue, since I have two wag54g's now.
[02:05] <wbx> otherwise i can send you one ;=)
[02:05] <haa42> can anyone help me here please ? flashed with jffs2 , power was blinking and dmz solid. now it has solid power and no dmz. but i cant see it ( no ping to 192.168.1.1 )
[02:05] <nbd> haa42: what router?
[02:05] <haa42> wrt54gs 1.1
[02:05] <z3ro> wbx: I learned my lesson to make a backup of a routers flash before I start screwing with it. :p
[02:05] <wbx> z3ro: do you like cvs access to include wag support into openwrt? as soon as 2.4.30 runs..
[02:06] <nbd> haa42: did you have a different ip on it before?
[02:06] <z3ro> wbx: sure, though I need to brush up on cvs... I only know the basics of it.
[02:07] <wbx> z3ro: it is simple. if you have questions just ask...
[02:07] <nbd> when i started hacking on openwrt, i didn't know anything about cvs at all :)
[02:07] <nbd> then over time i learned to hate it
[02:07] <z3ro> wbx: heh, thanks. :)
[02:07] <wbx> z3ro: i will ask mbm about cvs and other resources for you.
[02:07] <haa42> i added to the last line of S40network ifconfig br0:1 10.10.0.150 netmask 255.255.0.0
[02:07] <haa42> but i cant see that too
[02:07] <z3ro> wbx: thanks
[02:08] <haa42> the squashfs image is working tho
[02:08] <haa42> it had an older experimental build on it before ( i dont know if that makes a difference)
[02:09] <inh> weeeeeeeel
[02:09] <inh> cliffstah, im back heeh
[02:10] <haa42> nbd : any ideas ?
[02:10] Action: inh is htinking about modding a cellphone into his router
[02:11] <inh> anyone know wht language this is? http://www.saunalahti.fi/~tovaska/gsm/Nokia/3310/vibra2/
[02:11] <nbd> haa42: no idea. normally this should work
[02:11] <nbd> inh: finnish
[02:11] <nettie> z3ro :) didnt know you finally succeded eheh.. cool!
[02:11] <nbd> hey nettie
[02:11] <inh> dang
[02:12] <haa42> nbd : im using the windows tftp client ( command line ) , its working with the squashfs image. is it possible that i need another one ?
[02:12] <inh> so much for transatiing it
[02:12] <nbd> haa42: it's probably not the tftp client, if you can successfully flash the squashfs image
[02:13] <z3ro> nettie: yeah, patch is on z3ro.geek.nz if you want to have a look.
[02:13] <haa42> nbd : i thought so
[02:13] <haa42> when restarting it , the power and dmz are solid for a long time
[02:13] <z3ro> (late) dinner for me, so brb
[02:13] <haa42> then the dmz goes off
[02:13] <heka> wbx: I used mtd -r -e linux write /tmp/openwrt-wrt54g-squashfs.bin linux, and everything went OK. but now I cant enter the box. how long do I have to wait untill it installs the new *.bin?
[02:13] <nbd> haa42: sounds like a normal boot process
[02:14] <nbd> heka: congratulations, you bricked your router. you should flash with tftp again
[02:14] <haa42> but even tho i had firstboot on , i cant see pings from 192.168.1.1 ttl=100 , in fact no pings at all
[02:14] <heka> okay
[02:14] <nettie> z3ro cool thanx.. I'll give it "just" a look :p
[02:14] <heka> is it any problem if I restart it ?
[02:15] <nbd> ok. will put a huge commit in cvs now. wish me luck :)
[02:15] <inh> holy crap
[02:15] <inh> http://www.amontec.com/lcd_nokia_3310.shtml
[02:17] <wbx> heka: you need to use trx.
[02:17] <nbd> wbx: ok. my stuff is in cvs now
[02:17] <heka> okay its back again :)
[02:18] <nbd> wbx: doing a full rebuild now, just to be sure
[02:18] <wbx> nbd: yeah. i do it the same way..
[02:18] <wbx> nbd: after big commits..
[02:19] <nbd> wbx: lol. very long log message in the generated ChangeLog :)
[02:22] <haa42> nbd: i reflashed with jffs2 also, and now after flashing the power led is still blinking ( its been more than 2 minutes )
[02:23] <haa42> what does blinking power indicate ? ( no dmz)
[02:24] <Death_INC> haa42: invalid image probably... you should be able to tftp it a new image
[02:24] <Death_INC> it will be 192.168.1.1
[02:24] <inh> hey Death_INC
[02:24] <nbd> no. if it is an invalid image, then dmz blinks slowly
[02:24] <Death_INC> sup
[02:25] <Death_INC> oh? doh
[02:25] <cliffstah> bbiaf, going to change the silly netgear network card
[02:25] <cliffstah> :]
[02:26] <inh> hehe
[02:27] <haa42> where can i get the linksys stock firmware for the gs 1.1 ?
[02:27] <inh> from linksys.com
[02:28] <haa42> sowwy :) i was clicking on drivers and didnt see firmware
[02:28] <inh> hehe no worrries
[02:32] <heka> I cant install anything with ipkg Im getting : Read-only file system
[02:32] <heka> any idea?
[02:33] <heka> ERROR: failed to make directory /usr/lib/ipkg/lists: Read-only file system
[02:33] <caldari> you did a safe boot or is your 1st boot ?
[02:33] <heka> this is the second boot
[02:35] <caldari> and is still read-only ? jffs image ?
[02:36] <heka> yeah!
[02:36] <heka> I`ll try to reflash it again
[02:36] <caldari> set boot_wait on first
[02:37] <Piega`WrK> can i compile only a package??
[02:37] <heka> caldari: Ok
[02:38] <nbd> wbx: i just posted to linksysinfo about the current status of wag54g support. maybe someone reads this and wants to help :)
[02:40] <wickus_h> nbd: i can help with the testing on my wag but what other help do u need
[02:41] <nbd> wickus_h: well... porting z3ro's patch to 2.4.30 won't be easy
[02:41] <nbd> that's the next step
[02:42] <wickus_h> kernel and i are not friends
[02:43] <z3ro> I'm going to start working on 2.4.30 tonight, btw.
[02:43] <wickus_h> z3ro one thing tho
[02:43] <nbd> z3ro: please work on this on our cvs srever
[02:43] <wickus_h> u going to use lzma for the kernel
[02:43] <nbd> z3ro: that will make it easier for me to help
[02:43] <z3ro> nbd: yes, I will do that.
[02:44] <nbd> this will be a good opportunity to see if my build system restructuring is enough to add more hardware support
[02:45] <heka> same problem, Read-only file system
[02:45] <nbd> heka: did you flash jffs2?
[02:45] <z3ro> nbd: yeah.
[02:45] <heka> nbd: Im not sure because I dont know how to flash it.
[02:46] <heka> I flashed using tftp
[02:46] <nbd> which image did you flash?
[02:46] <heka> openwrt-wrt54g-squashfs.bin
[02:46] <nbd> try openwrt-wrt54g-jffs2.bin
[02:46] <heka> once I tried mtd -r -e linux write /tmp/openwrt-wrt54g-squashfs.bin linux
[02:47] <nbd> heka: if you want to use mtd, you need to use the .trx files
[02:47] <nbd> heka: the bin files have an extra header that is only needed for the boot loader to accept it via tftp
[02:47] <heka> nbd: Yes but I didnt knew that time
[02:47] <nbd> heka: now you know :)
[02:47] <heka> nbd: Of course!
[02:48] <heka> nbd: I see openwrt-wrt54g-jffs2 is biger than openwrt-wrt54g-squashfs
[02:48] <nbd> yea
[02:48] <nbd> it's completely writable
[02:48] <frop> no...lots of problem compiling...
[02:49] <nbd> no readonly part plus symlinks
[02:49] <nbd> frop: ?
[02:49] <heka> nbd: but I need the 2MB space
[02:49] <heka> :)
[02:49] <nbd> heka: ok. did you run failsafe and firstboot?
[02:49] <heka> nbd: No
[02:49] <nbd> heka: do that
[02:49] <frop> /usr/lib/mysql/libmysqlclient.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format
[02:49] <frop> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[02:49] <frop> make[13]: *** [rlm_sql_mysql.la] Error 1
[02:50] <frop> this is for freeradius
[02:50] <nbd> i'll have a look
[02:50] <heka> nbd: in command line?
[02:50] <nbd> frop: need to wait until my full rebuild is done
[02:50] <frop> k
[02:50] <nbd> heka: see our documentation
[02:50] <heka> nbd: okay
[02:52] <heka> nbd: Done! thanks man.
[02:52] <nbd> no problem
[02:55] <inh> man
[02:55] <inh> i really hope i get the phones...
[02:58] <z3ro> who admins the openwrt cvs server?
[02:59] <z3ro> it's probably faster for the admin to check in the sources for 2.4.30...
[02:59] <z3ro> I'm on 256kbps.
[02:59] <inh> prolly [mbm]
[02:59] <inh> he seems to do most everything
[03:00] <inh> man.. one nokia 3310 is all i need to completel my router
[03:00] <inh> and one crazy ass router it will be
[03:01] <wbx> z3ro: 2.4.30 sources? why?
[03:01] <wbx> z3ro: we only provide diffs.
[03:02] <nbd> wbx: he probably means the other cvs server :)
[03:02] <z3ro> nbd wanted the sources to be in the cvs so we could work on wag54g support in .30.
[03:02] <z3ro> devel cvs server, I guess.
[03:03] Action: inh pees his pants
[03:03] <nbd> z3ro: i think we should use the fully patched openwrt sources
[03:03] <z3ro> nbd: sure, that's fine too.
[03:03] <z3ro> actually, for openwrt, that is probably best.
[03:11] <nbd> wbx: so. can you add the kernel to our cvs server?
[03:21] <wbx> nbd: you got the permissions..
[03:22] <wbx> nbd: in a few seconds
[03:23] <nbd> wbx: wtf... the new wl utility doesn't work
[03:23] <ralf> z3ro: hi
[03:23] <wbx> nbd: wl utility from asus source?
[03:23] <z3ro> ralf: hi
[03:23] <nbd> wbx: yeah. 1941
[03:23] <nbd> wbx: wl driver adapter not found
[03:23] <ralf> z3ro: someone told me thatt the atm driver was linked statically in the kernel
[03:24] <ralf> isn't it modular?
[03:25] <z3ro> ralf: afaik it's a module.
[03:25] <ralf> how it is named?
[03:25] <z3ro> tiatm.o
[03:27] <framer99> anybody have any idea why "wlconf eth1 up" would return "eth1: Argument list too long" wlconf eth1 down doesnt' complain
[03:31] <ralf> z3ro: making it works to a 2.6 kernel will be impossible?
[03:31] <z3ro> ralf: unless someone can disassemble tiatm.o to usable source code, probably.
[03:31] <ralf> how big is it?
[03:32] <z3ro> -rwxr-xr-x 1 z3ro users 166240 Jan 12 02:45 tiatm.o
[03:33] <z3ro> ~163K
[03:34] <nbd> wbx: eth1: Broadcom BCM4320 802.11 Wireless Controller 3.90.23.0
[03:34] <nbd> wbx: that's the real one, right?
[03:35] <wbx> nbd: yes.
[03:35] <nbd> wbx: wl doesn't work. it uses a different ioctl
[03:35] <nbd> wbx: and for some strange reason this driver doesn't accept that ioctl
[03:35] <wbx> hmm. i have no time.. sunday back
[03:35] <nbd> wbx: k
[03:36] <ralf> z3ro: can you send it? i know a person who enjoys disassembling arm code
[03:36] <Kaloz> nbd: can you move the usable stuff from jolt's code to the main tree? i suppose choosing the kernel needs DEVELOPER=1, too right?
[03:36] <z3ro> ralf: it's mips.
[03:36] <ralf> damn
[03:36] <Kaloz> z3ro: mipsel
[03:37] <Kaloz> ;)
[03:37] <z3ro> Kaloz: yeah
[03:37] <z3ro> ralf: does your friend know how to disassemble mipsel code?
[03:37] <ralf> i'll ask him
[03:38] <ralf> however his busy reverse engineering a pda bootloader
[03:38] <z3ro> well, if he can give any help at all I think it would be worth it.
[03:38] <nbd> Kaloz: i'll work on it later.
[03:38] <z3ro> if he wants more info: "tiatm.o: ELF 32-bit LSB MIPS-I relocatable, MIPS, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped"
[03:39] <nbd> Kaloz: need to buy and eat some food, first :)
[03:39] <Kaloz> nbd: k :) maybe we can fix the mtd stuff, too
[03:39] <Kaloz> nbd: jolt said it works for him, but it doesn't work for me, for mbm, for ldc, and so on :p
[03:40] <nbd> Kaloz: yeah. but i don't know anything about the mtd stuff
[03:41] <Kaloz> nbd: well, i will try to move the stuff from 2.4 there.. you know, we have nothing to loose :P
[03:42] <Kaloz> heh
[03:42] <Kaloz> jolt's branch doesn't build at all :p
[03:44] <Kaloz> yay, i should clean up my home dir, it's fsck'in chaotic :P
[03:45] <z3ro> Kaloz: my home directory is the same... except it's over two hdd's. :p
[03:45] Action: z3ro needs to clean up his files.
[03:48] <ralf> z3ro: but, the original firware allows you to set up things manually, like with iptables?
[03:49] <z3ro> ralf: ... did I miss something???
[03:50] <ralf> the dlink firmware
[03:50] <ralf> has linux inside
[03:50] <ralf> there are route,iptables etc.?
[03:50] <z3ro> yes
[03:50] <ralf> even to run arbitrary apps?
[03:50] <ralf> there is a shell?
[03:50] <Kaloz> on the dlink you can telnet in simply
[03:50] <Kaloz> no user and password asked
[03:52] <ralf> Kaloz: i have the dsl firmware, the fs image is squasfs?
[03:54] <ralf> Kaloz: and then can you use iptables? or set some QoS rule?
[03:54] <Kaloz> ralf: i didn't poke with it that much
[03:55] <Kaloz> ralf: i got a unit from dlink hungary to play with :)
[03:55] <nbd> Kaloz: do you think it's ok if we set up a semi-official 'non-free' repository?
[03:55] <Kaloz> nbd: what do oyu mean with that? wl?
[03:55] <nbd> Kaloz: wl, nas, maybe other stuff later
[03:56] <Kaloz> nbd: well, imho we should 'trick' with it
[03:56] <nbd> Kaloz: how?
[03:56] <Kaloz> nbd: eg. grab nas and wl from the factory fw
[03:57] <nbd> Kaloz: i don't mean adding scripts to build these packages. just make the packages once and put them online somewhere
[03:58] <Kaloz> nbd: well, maybe.. but not into the official repo
[03:58] <nbd> Kaloz: of course not
[03:58] <nbd> Kaloz: i want to have them cleanly separated
[03:58] <nbd> Kaloz: i just think we should have it somewhere, so we can point users to it
[03:59] <nettie> nbd nico tracker?
[03:59] <nettie> maybe is a good place
[03:59] <Kaloz> the tracker will be obsolete
[04:00] <Kaloz> we are working on integrating all the packages
[04:00] <nettie> uhm yeah maybe we need an exp tracker
[04:00] <nbd> and i think we could use a bug tracking system
[04:00] <nettie> ahh
[04:00] <Kaloz> nbd: btw, we can add scripts to build nas and wl packages locally
[04:01] <nbd> Kaloz: why? they need to download the entire source tarball, that sucks
[04:01] <Kaloz> nbd: no
[04:01] <Kaloz> nbd: factory fqw, loopmount it, cp
[04:01] <Kaloz> :)
[04:01] <nbd> Kaloz: ah, right
[04:01] <Kaloz> s/fqw/fw
[04:01] <nbd> Kaloz: having the stuff online is still more convenient
[04:01] <Kaloz> sure
[04:01] <nbd> Kaloz: and if there are any legal problems, it's easy to take them down
[04:01] <nbd> Kaloz: but i don't expect any problems there
[04:02] <Kaloz> kk
[04:02] <nbd> Kaloz: i can put it on my server, so that it's not even on openwrt.org
[04:02] <Kaloz> an open source driver instead of wl would be better :P
[04:02] <nbd> of course
[04:02] <Kaloz> of course, with we18 (wpa generic) support =)
[04:02] <nbd> isn't jolt working on sth. like that?
[04:02] <Kaloz> no idea what jolt is doing :p
[04:02] <nbd> (i mean the tuxap stuff)
[04:03] <Kaloz> he's mia most of the time
[04:03] <nbd> haven't seen a commit there in a long time
[04:03] <nbd> but it looks like it's a good start
[04:03] <nbd> maybe some active developer should take that stuff and continue to work on it
[04:03] <nbd> (now that we have a fully reverse engineered driver)
[04:05] <Kaloz> i checked out jolt's branch for the wgt again from the date he last commited (as other stuff posibly fsck'ed up that tree)
[04:06] <Kaloz> if it doesn't build this way too, i simply go back my hacked tree and start to integarate that into our main tree
[04:06] <nbd> do that
[04:07] <Kaloz> but i will need your help with br, you know :)
[04:08] <nbd> no problem
[04:08] <nbd> just make a directory that compiles a working 2.6 kernel and i'll integrate it
[04:11] <Kaloz> yeah, same error
[04:11] <Kaloz> okay, back to my own, rediffing and so on
[04:12] <Kaloz> nbd: please make sure that choosing this kernel won't be available without dEVELOPER set, as it's almost sure we will fixm this from hour to hour in the beginning
[04:13] <Jkx> Lo boys
[04:13] <Jkx> I'm looking for a way to use wpa-supplicant as client on a wrt
[04:14] <Jkx> i tried severall wpa-supplicant but i have several bugs
[04:19] <nbd> Kaloz: sure
[04:21] <nbd> something is wrong with our firmware... the new wl works with oleg's firmware, but not with openwrt
[04:22] <Jkx> ??
[04:28] <Kaloz> nbd: did you try that wl without wlcompat?
[04:29] <nbd> Kaloz: yeah. at first my image didn't even have wlcompat until i fixed it
[04:29] <nbd> Kaloz: the new wl binary uses a different ioctl
[04:29] <nbd> Kaloz: and for some reason the driver doesn't respond to that
[04:29] <Kaloz> nbd: hmz.. are _all_ the includes from the asus tarball, or smme is still form the netgear one?
[04:29] <nbd> Kaloz: i don't know
[04:30] <nbd> Kaloz: but the new netgear wl doesn't work either
[04:30] <Kaloz> because this can be a problem for sure
[04:30] <nbd> Kaloz: seems to be the same
[04:30] <Kaloz> then probably we have mixed includes
[04:30] <nbd> i'll investigate later
[04:31] <Kaloz> okie dokie :) i'm gone to diff jolt's stugg and mips-cvs and so on :)
[04:31] <Kaloz> bbl
[04:31] <nbd> k
[04:34] <joris_> I'm probably number 3781734 to ask today, but... what's wrong with the website?
[04:34] <caldari> error 403
[04:34] <joris_> I see that :)
[04:35] <caldari> http://openwrt.org/FrontPage
[04:35] <caldari> try that
[04:35] <caldari> 1st page only seems is not working
[04:35] <joris_> that works, thanks :)
[04:36] <joris_> I've gotten openwrt to work before (back when it was still a hassle to build), but I've lost track of things
[04:36] <joris_> what's the 'hot' hardware these days for mild thinkering with a current support?
[04:40] <nbd> joris_: asus deluxe is very 'hot'
[04:40] <nbd> joris_: asus wl-500g deluxe, i mean
[04:41] <nbd> joris_: it has 4 mb flash, 32 mb ram and two usb 2.0 ports
[04:41] <nbd> joris_: and it's the most stable openwrt-compatible unit you can get
[04:41] <joris_> and the wrt54gs has how much ram?
[04:41] <nbd> 32
[04:42] <nbd> the asus deluxe has less flash, but that doesn't matter at all because of the usb 2.0 ports
[04:42] <wigyori> 'morning
[04:42] <nbd> 'morning
[04:42] <joris_> nbd: hmmm, the wrt has 8MB flash?
[04:42] <nbd> joris_: the gs ha
[04:43] <nbd> joris_: the gs has 8 mb and the g 4 mb
[04:43] <joris_> yeah, I remember
[04:43] <joris_> what antennaconnector does the asus have?
[04:43] <joris_> (sorry for using you as my easy info database, but I'm too lazy today)
[04:43] <nbd> i don't know what it's called. it's the small one that (i think) most pc wlan cards use
[04:44] <olli_04> joris_: SMA male
[04:44] <joris_> ah, nasty
[04:44] <joris_> reverse or straight?
[04:46] <olli_04> joris_: i don't know to much about antenna connectors for wlan. whats the diffenrence between reverse and straight?
[04:48] <caldari> how i can change the country settings at my wrt ?
[04:49] <caldari> [~]# wl country
[04:49] <caldari> AU/AUSTRALIA
[04:49] <caldari> for sure i dont leave at AU
[04:49] <caldari> :p
[04:49] <caldari> live even
[04:50] <joris_> australia is good
[04:50] <joris_> both in wlan terms and in general
[04:51] <caldari> i know but we have same channels but not same dBm restrictions (greece here)
[04:51] <joris_> olli_04: reverse is the identical format, but with the tread on the other end
[04:51] <joris_> caldari: I think the country setting only affects channels
[04:52] <caldari> then ill play with txpower settings only
[04:52] <joris_> caldari: care to make a greece-belgium link?
[04:53] <caldari> wireless or adsl link ? :)
[05:01] <olli_04> joris_: it has a Reverse-SMA
[05:04] <joris_> olli_04: okay, thanks :)
[05:07] <Setsquare> does anyone know what the power led continually flashing means ?
[05:07] <Setsquare> and dmz goes off and on every 3 sec
[05:36] <Jkx> is there something wrong the experimental ? i get a lot of ip: can't load library 'libgcc_s.so.1'
[05:40] <Kaloz> Setsquare: try to flash a new firmware
[05:41] <Kaloz> Jkx: heh
[05:41] <Kaloz> Jkx: tha tfile should be there by default
[05:41] <Jkx> Kaloz: I don't have this
[05:42] <Jkx> i flashed 2 WRTs, and both have the same issue
[05:42] <Kaloz> did you compile on your own or it's a snapshot?
[05:42] <Jkx> snapshot
[05:42] <Kaloz> oh, wait a sec
[05:42] <Kaloz> which repo do you use?
[05:42] <Jkx> ok
[05:42] <Jkx> experimental
[05:43] <Kaloz> there are a few :P
[05:43] <Jkx> http://openwrt.org/downloads/experimental/bin/packages
[05:43] <Kaloz> anyway, can you install the libgcc package?
[05:43] <Jkx> no, because there is no package for that
[05:44] <Kaloz> erm, is this the latest experimental snapshot?
[05:44] <Jkx> i flashed this aps 2 weeks ago
[05:44] <Kaloz> ah, then upgrade
[05:44] <Jkx> how ?
[05:44] <Kaloz> reflash
[05:44] <Jkx> ho no,
[05:45] <Jkx> i spent a couple of time to set this up
[05:45] <frop> mmm
[05:45] <Kaloz> you're mixing a gcc 3.3 compiled firmware with fgcc 3.4 packages
[05:45] <Jkx> because they have really some custom setup
[05:45] <Kaloz> s/fgcc/gcc/
[05:45] <Jkx> ho
[05:45] <Kaloz> well, experimental means experimental
[05:46] <Jkx> yeah
[05:46] <Kaloz> things are changing from time to time :p
[05:46] <frop> now, my nvram says: et0macaddr=00:11:22:33:44:55
[05:46] <frop> if i submit something like `nvram set et0macaddr=`
[05:47] <frop> at reboot i'll have REAL mac addr?
[05:47] <Kaloz> i don't think so :P set it up manually :p
[05:47] <Kaloz> btw, what hw revision is this?
[05:47] <Jkx> Kaloz: i get issue with WPA client in fact, that why i start looking and found that i have a issue w/ libgcc
[05:48] <Kaloz> Jkx: all gcc 3.4 packages would need that file
[05:48] <frop> Kaloz: is a Moto wr850g rev.3
[05:49] <frop> could i add something like `ifconfig eth0 >> /tmp/mac.txt` in function.sh?
[05:49] <frop> before it take that nvram value?
[05:49] <Jkx> Kaloz: yes but the latest experimental has wpa inside wl so perhaps it should works ?
[05:49] <Kaloz> frop: btw, why don1t you check the sticker on it andd se tit back?
[05:50] <Kaloz> Jkx: well, no idea if it's true or not, i use wpa in amster mode on the wrt only
[05:50] <frop> do you mean to look inside router?
[05:50] <frop> i don't know where to get REAL mac addr
[05:50] <frop> :P
[05:51] <Kaloz> *cough* it should be oin a sticker outside *cough*
[05:51] <frop> really?
[05:52] <frop> there's a 'Wireless MAC' and a 'WAN Mac'
[05:52] <frop> :P
[05:52] <frop> but they don't seem mac addresses
[05:55] <nfsv4> does openwrt support the gui interface and does it support VPN stuff
[05:55] <nfsv4> I am using hyperwrt because it is as close as I can get it to the Linksys package and I can login and take a look inside :)
[05:56] <iggy> I think someone is working on a browser gui for it
[05:56] <nfsv4> i see
[05:57] <iggy> I don't know the status of it
[05:57] <nfsv4> it is not that I don't know how to configure by cmd line it is jsut that I might miss something out
[05:57] <iggy> maybe there's more info on the wiki
[05:57] <nfsv4> i have tons of broken machines
[05:57] <nfsv4> i don't ned a broken router :)
[05:58] <iggy> I completely understand
[05:59] <nfsv4> i also connect to my company LAN via vpn and these comming weeks are pretty tight so don't want to mess up the vpn stuff
[05:59] <iggy> I don't know about the vpn stuff, but I know there are packages for it
[06:00] <nfsv4> see this is the thing I want to avoid I don't want to read about how vpns and NATs work
[06:00] <nfsv4> i mean I can spend a whole day fooling around with it
[06:01] <iggy> I doubt there will be a working web interface in the next few weeks
[06:01] Action: ralf is away ( http://www.autistici.org.nyud.net:8090/shockraver/ph0t0.htm)
[06:01] <Jkx> Kaloz: where can i find a stable ?
[06:01] <Kaloz> Jkx: first, what hardware do you got?
[06:02] <Jkx> gs 1
[06:02] <Kaloz> 1.0 or 1.1?
[06:02] <Jkx> both
[06:02] <Kaloz> stable (better call it deprecated) won't run on the 1.1
[06:03] <Kaloz> imho you should grab the source and build you own, if you're really into customizing
[06:03] <Jkx> i don't have so much time
[06:04] <Kaloz> well, then you have to accept, that experimental is changing all the time
[06:05] <Jkx> you mean that there is no stable release ?
[06:05] <Kaloz> depends on what do you call stable
[06:06] <Kaloz> experimental is pretty stable, but yes, it's changing all the time
[06:06] <Jkx> something we can rely on
[06:06] <Kaloz> but big vchanges only ahappen a few times
[06:06] <Jkx> like gcc3.3 vs 3.4
[06:06] <Kaloz> you were simply unlucky, because you used a version just before we upgraded gcc
[06:08] <nbd> waaah, it' way too hot here
[06:09] <nbd> how am i supposed to work that way?
[06:12] <odoc> im waiting for tonight too nbd :)
[06:12] <odoc> hopefully its getting a little bit colder than
[06:13] <odoc> in the meantime im happy with a cold beer :)
[06:14] <frop> wow
[06:14] <frop> a beer
[06:14] <frop> i need onw too
[06:14] Action: nbd doesn't have any beer :(
[06:15] <frop> me too
[06:15] <frop> :(
[06:15] <frop> only milk and fruit juice
[06:15] <Kaloz> nbd: come, we should drink some coronitas :P
[06:16] <nbd> :)
[06:16] <nfsv4> ok man you guys are making me hungry
[06:16] <nfsv4> hey do you guys know how to stop allthese channel join and leave announcements
[06:17] <Jkx> Kaloz: i just flashed it up.. now i get a missing wl
[06:17] <nfsv4> like wigyori_ (wigyori@azigazi.hu) has joined #wrt54g
[06:17] <nfsv4> man it takes a long time to flash these things
[06:17] <nfsv4> hey how do enable wait boot or something on that lil box using nvram ?
[06:17] <Kaloz> Jkx: sure, wl never was a standard component
[06:17] <Jkx> and ?
[06:18] <Kaloz> nfsv4: what client do you use?
[06:18] <Kaloz> Jkx: install it, use "wlc"
[06:18] <nfsv4> Kaloz, xchat
[06:18] <Kaloz> nfsv4: no idea then :)
[06:18] Action: Kaloz uses irssi
[06:19] Action: nbd uses irssi, too
[06:19] <nfsv4> ooh you are top dog too
[06:19] <Jkx> Kaloz: i prefer wl ;)
[06:19] <nfsv4> Kaloz, are you in hungary ?
[06:21] <nfsv4> wl ? that's not a client is it ?
[06:21] <Kaloz> nfsv4: yep
[06:23] <nbd> Kaloz: it seems like the jffs2 bbc stuff always uses the lzari compressor when in size mode, yet i think it tries them all
[06:23] <nbd> Kaloz: wouldn't it be better to change it from size mode to manual lzari mode?
[06:23] <nbd> Kaloz: that would probably be a lot faster
[06:24] <Kaloz> no idea
[06:24] <nbd> Kaloz: i'm doing some more writes with binary files to test it
[06:27] <nbd> Kaloz: hmm, ok. now it uses zlib again, too
[06:29] <ketas> i heard that in some linksys (with openwrt i think) you can set output power so high that can actually kill transmitter after few weeks?
[06:29] <nbd> Kaloz: only if you explicitly enable the regulatory override (which you shouldn't)
[06:30] <Jkx> Kaloz: ok, my WPA now works w/ wpa-supplicant
[06:30] <nbd> ketas: i meant you, not kaloz
[06:30] <nbd> tab completion ...
[06:30] <ketas> :)
[06:40] <nbd> Kaloz: wow... changing from size mode to lzari is not only faster, it gives better compression :)
[06:40] <nbd> Kaloz: that's weird
[06:41] <nbd> Kaloz: maybe we should change the default for both mtd on the host and the bbc stuff on the box
[06:41] <nbd> Kaloz: i'll run some more tests
[06:44] <nbd> Kaloz: ok. now it suddenly doesn't give better compression anymore
[06:46] <nbd> Kaloz: jffs2 is unpredictable
[06:57] <nbd> Kaloz: ok. got the optimal settings now
[06:57] <nbd> Kaloz: i'll leave zlib and lzari enabled, leave it at size mode and disable all other compressors (they never get used anyway)
[06:57] <nbd> Kaloz: then an asterisk install takes 1m13s instead of 1m45s
[08:00] <Setsquare> is the new build of experimental not ment to show a progress bar when doing a ipkg install or ipkg update ?
[08:03] <cplx> what would be the target for a linksys WRT54GS in MRTG? I want to graph its WLAN Interface its currently: Target[router]: 3:public@192.168.1.253
[08:05] <cplx> Anyone here have a MRTG config file for graphing different interfaces on the wrt54g/s
[08:07] <nbd> Kaloz: ping
[08:07] <nbd> yay... i found a free GPL'd version of et with complete switch support
[08:11] <ixs> hmmm. tricky problem here: the linksys wrt54gs which acts as our wlanbridge is rebooting itself after some minutes of high traffic.
[08:12] <nbd> ixs: what version?
[08:12] <ixs> second question: "high" traffic in this regard translates to about roughly 1.2MB/s, which is a bit low... Is this to be expected or what?
[08:12] <ixs> nbd: v1.1 with nvram set clkfreq=216 already applied
[08:12] <nbd> hmm... strange
[08:12] <cplx> Anyone here have a MRTG config file for graphing different interfaces on the wrt54g/s
[08:13] <ixs> cplx: ipkg install snmpd and you can simple use the standard mrtg config.
[08:13] <cplx> Target[router]: 3:public@192.168.1.253
[08:13] <cplx> yer
[08:13] <cplx> but whats the interface for the WLAN, and the diff ports on it
[08:14] <cplx> im kinda confused
[08:16] <Setsquare> who here has latest experiemnta installed ?
[08:18] Action: nbd
[08:47] <Kaloz> nbd: pong
[08:51] <nbd> Kaloz: i got a free et source from the montavista tarball
[08:51] <nbd> Kaloz: i'm currently looking at the changes to make it work
[08:51] <nbd> Kaloz: this et has adm and robo support
[08:52] <z3ro> nbd: which switch is this for? adm6996?
[08:52] <Kaloz> nbd: really?
[08:52] <nbd> z3ro: both adm6996 and bcm53xx
[08:52] <nbd> Kaloz: yeah
[08:53] <z3ro> oh, cool. :)
[08:53] <nbd> Kaloz: not even as-is headers, but real gpl ones
[08:53] <Kaloz> nbd: look around, i would drool if you would find wl somewhere there
[08:53] <Kaloz> :D
[08:53] <nbd> Kaloz: i already looked. it's not there (of course)
[08:54] <nbd> Kaloz: when i can make it work, i'll put it into our kernel source as a patch
[08:54] <z3ro> damn it! why does no one sell 14-pin IDC connectors?
[08:54] Action: z3ro wants one for the wag54g's jtag.
[08:57] <z3ro> hmm... found them at the only good electronics place in nz, which is of course closed for the weekend. =/
[08:58] <Kaloz> z3ro: btw, what is the status of the wag?
[08:58] <z3ro> Kaloz: kernel works
[08:58] <Kaloz> z3ro: and? :)
[08:58] <z3ro> Kaloz: it boots up until it gets to mounting the rootfs, then panics because it does not have one.
[08:59] <Kaloz> and? :) did you try to give it one?
[08:59] <nbd> Kaloz: i think i can ignore most of the diff between the proprietary and the free driver
[08:59] <nbd> Kaloz: so i'm not going to taint the gpl thing with proprietary code
[09:00] <z3ro> Kaloz: well, I did give it the default linksys one, but then I remembered that the linux-mips.org kernel does not have squashfs support...
[09:00] <z3ro> so, no, not yet.
[09:00] <wickus_h> z3ro: i had to select the amd from the mtd settings to mount a cramfs filesystem
[09:00] <wickus_h> just to test it
[09:01] <z3ro> wickus_h: your wag54g has an amd flash chip?
[09:01] <wickus_h> or adm
[09:01] <wickus_h> not sure
[09:01] <LiquidNerd> hmmm... what would I google to figure out how to fix a forwarding problem? The problem is I have the router forwarding port 80 to this system, but then this system keeps getting forwarded back to itself
[09:01] <Kaloz> z3ro: z3ro hmz.. what kernel version?
[09:02] <Kaloz> .17?
[09:02] <z3ro> Kaloz: yes.
[09:02] <wickus_h> z3ro this is from the log
[09:02] <wickus_h> avalanche flash device: 0x400000 at 0x10000000.
[09:02] <wickus_h> Amd/Fujitsu Extended Query Table v1.1 at 0x0040
[09:02] <z3ro> hmm
[09:03] <wickus_h> when i added that into config and recompiled i got this
[09:03] <wickus_h> Looking for mtd device :mtd0:
[09:03] <wickus_h> Found a mtd0 image (0xe0000), with size (0x310000).
[09:03] <wickus_h> and it goes up to 4
[09:05] <z3ro> that sounds right.
[09:05] <Mick27_> dors someone use dd-wrt ?
[09:05] <Mick27_> does
[09:06] <wickus_h> yes i checked the output from the original firm and its exactly the same
[09:09] <LiquidNerd> any ideas?
[09:10] <wickus_h> LiquidNerd: how does your rules look like
[09:12] <LiquidNerd> iptables -t nat -A prerouting_rule -p tcp --dport 80 -d externalip -j DNAT --to 192.168.1.100:80
[09:12] <wickus_h> LiquidNerd: what u also can check for did u specify the -i interface
[09:13] <wickus_h> ok try adding the -i option
[09:13] <LiquidNerd> that's a good idea
[09:13] <nbd> Kaloz: ok. i think this et driver doesn't contain any vlan support
[09:13] <LiquidNerd> that way if it's not coming from vlan1 it wont forward it...
[09:13] <nbd> Kaloz: so we can't use it as a drop-in replacement for et right now
[09:13] <wickus_h> yeap
[09:14] <nbd> Kaloz: but i think we can try to make it work like b44
[09:14] <nbd> Kaloz: like a more efficient version of b44
[09:15] <Kaloz> err
[09:15] <Kaloz> if it doesn't have any vlan support
[09:15] <Kaloz> then we have just another b44
[09:15] <nbd> Kaloz: exactly
[09:15] <nbd> Kaloz: but probably a more efficient one
[09:15] <Kaloz> and? is it better then b44 at all? :p
[09:16] <wickush_away> be back later
[09:16] <Setsquare> is dhcp on the wan port disabled on the latest experimental ?
[09:16] <nbd> Kaloz: or we could use some code from it and incorporate it into b44
[09:16] <nbd> Kaloz: still useful
[09:16] <nbd> Kaloz: i will look at b44.c to see, what could be done
[09:17] <nbd> maybe i find a way
[09:17] <LiquidNerd> wickus, you're a genius
[09:17] <LiquidNerd> that worked
[09:17] <Kaloz> nbd: btw, if the sources are the same
[09:17] <Kaloz> nbd: then broadcom violated gpl
[09:18] <Kaloz> nbd: and the et driver is gpl'ed automatically, as it based on gpl code :p
[09:18] <nbd> Kaloz: the same as what?
[09:18] <Kaloz> [19:07:59] < nbd> Kaloz: i think i can ignore most of the diff between the proprietary and the free driver
[09:19] <Ge0rG> isn't the vlan management completely handled by the kernel?
[09:19] <nbd> Kaloz: well... broadcom owns the copyright to both, so no gpl violation there
[09:19] <Kaloz> nbd: hmz
[09:19] <nbd> Kaloz: releasing one version under the gpl doesn't make the other gpl too, even if they share code
[09:20] <nbd> Kaloz: not unless gpl code from someone else was incorporated, but that's almost certainly not the case here
[09:20] <nbd> Kaloz: the normal driver part was almost the same, but then when i came to the switch support, there was much more code in the proprietary driver than in the free version
[09:20] <nbd> Kaloz: so i can't copy it over
[09:22] <nbd> Kaloz: but there's another way, i think
[09:22] <nbd> Kaloz: oleg could port his robocfg code to the free driver
[09:22] <nbd> Kaloz: but i don't think that's very useful
[09:22] <nbd> Kaloz: because we need b44 for linux 2.6 anyway
[09:22] <Kaloz> yep
[09:23] <nbd> Kaloz: btw. i found out, what's screwed with the new kernel and wl
[09:24] <nbd> Kaloz: seems like the ethtool calls don't get through
[09:24] <nbd> the new wl uses ethtool calls (i don't know if only for probing or for the whole communication)
[09:24] <nbd> do you know anything about that kind of stuff? (i don't)
[09:25] <nbd> where's oleg, when you need him? :)
[09:26] <Kaloz> :)
[09:26] <Kaloz> nbd: so without wl, robocfg is happy? :p
[09:26] <Kaloz> and maybe without robocfg, wl is happy with wlcompat? :p
[09:26] <Kaloz> hmz :)
[09:27] <nbd> Kaloz: i don't know
[09:27] <nbd> Kaloz: there has to be a way to make both work
[09:27] <nbd> i don't know what's wrong with wlcompat, yet
[09:27] <nbd> wanted to investigate using wlcompat-debug and wl
[09:27] <nbd> but wl doesn't work
[09:28] <nbd> i'll have a look at the asus sources
[09:31] <nbd> Kaloz: in the asus sources, ethtool behaves exactly as the private calls
[09:31] <nbd> Kaloz: i'll try to change it to that way
[09:31] <nbd> Kaloz: if robocfg works on the asus firmware, it might work on openwrt the same way
[09:32] <Dabian> Have anyone tried to make the wrt recieve and stream FM-radio?
[09:32] <Dabian> (or simular)
[09:34] <Setsquare> is it safe to run mtd erase OpenWrt if u wana start from scratch
[09:34] <Setsquare> then run fustboot
[09:34] <Setsquare> *firstboot
[09:34] <nbd> if you have the squashfs image and do it in failsafe, yes
[09:35] <Setsquare> oops
[09:35] <Setsquare> i been doing it in normal not failsafe
[09:35] <nbd> otherwise: might be
[09:35] <Setsquare> then just unplug unit
[09:35] <nbd> should work, too
[09:35] <LiquidNerd> hmmm..... now that it all works from the outside, I can't get it from the inside
[09:36] <nbd> Kaloz: compiling a new image...
[09:37] <Kaloz> nbd: i'm palying with my old br modification for the wgt
[09:37] <Kaloz> nbd: it was sooo long ago, i can hardly remember, what i achieved, and what problems were there
[09:39] <Setsquare> whats the correct ver of WL to get for newest experimental build ?
[09:40] <nbd> Kaloz: wow... the new driver is generating a lot of entropy for /dev/random
[09:41] <nbd> Kaloz: at least much more than before
[09:41] <LiquidNerd> gah.. If the connection is from the outside, it works fine, but say the system is 192.168.1.200, and you try and connect from the outside IP, it will forward it back to that system, rather than the correct one
[09:47] <nbd> Kaloz: damn... still doesn't work
[09:48] <ixs> hmmm. is it normal behaviour for iwconfig to show 802.11-DS?
[09:49] <nbd> ixs: yes
[09:49] <caldari> anyone has any idea how to boost my signal ?
[09:50] <ixs> nbd: kay. thx. right not BTW: the bridge is stable... but there's not yet much traffic on it...
[09:51] <Setsquare> is dhcp enabled on wan by default
[09:51] <caldari> Tx-Power:2147483647 dBm some time i love iwconfig
[09:51] <nbd> what?
[09:51] <wigyori> lol
[09:51] <nbd> now that's weird
[09:51] <nbd> caldari: what firmware version?
[09:52] <caldari> jffs2 exp
[09:52] <caldari> wl txpower 1
[09:52] <caldari> iwconfig
[09:52] <nbd> lol
[09:52] <nbd> weird
[09:52] <caldari> that made that tx-power :p
[09:52] <caldari> wl txpower 2 is ok
[09:52] <caldari> 11 dbm
[09:52] Action: nbd needs to have a look at the txpower stuff again
[09:53] <caldari> but 1 is 2147483647 dBm
[09:53] <caldari> but seriusly i need to get my txpower up
[09:53] <nbd> maybe wl sets it to -1 or sth. like that
[09:53] <nbd> or the calculation in iwconfig is wrong
[09:54] <caldari> iwconfig eth1 txpower 1 ; iwconfig eth1 = 0dbm
[09:54] <nbd> yeah, 1 == 1dbm
[09:54] <Kaloz> nbd: kick wbx in the ass
[09:54] <nbd> in wiconfig
[09:54] <nbd> Kaloz: i made a typo, maybe the compile that i'm running now works
[09:55] <nbd> Kaloz: it seems like wbx has not mixes the includes
[09:55] <caldari> ok but how i can get my signal stronger ?
[09:55] <nbd> Kaloz: it has to be that ethtool call
[09:55] <Kaloz> hmz
[09:55] <caldari> everything i tried made it worst
[09:55] <nbd> caldari: change the channel
[09:55] <nbd> caldari: change the position of your ap
[09:56] <caldari> i mean i have close to 1/3 less strength at same channel, same ap position that the org firmware :/
[09:56] <nbd> then increase the power
[09:56] <nbd> set more dbm
[09:56] <caldari> how ? every number above 22 seems that lowering it than boosting it
[09:57] <nbd> caldari: normal
[09:57] <nbd> caldari: use ~20
[09:57] <caldari> default is at 22
[09:57] <nbd> use 20
[09:59] <nbd> damn it ... still doesn't work
[10:01] <Dabian> heh
[10:01] <Dabian> Its teasing you, nbd :)
[10:03] <Setsquare> whats the correct for of wl to use for latest experimental ?
[10:05] <Setsquare> http://nthill.free.fr/openwrt/ipkg/stable/20041003/wl_0.1-2_mipsel.ipk
[10:05] <Setsquare> that ok ?
[10:05] <caldari> my wl still dont understand wl txpower1
[10:05] <caldari> my wl still dont understand wl txpwr1 even
[10:09] <caldari> as i see by wl ver all looks the same version
[10:10] <nbd> Kaloz: i copied over the code from the asus kernel now
[10:10] <nbd> Kaloz: maybe that works better
[10:11] <caldari> wl curpower
[10:11] <caldari> Current Limit: 21.00 dB
[10:11] <caldari> any idea what is this ?
[10:12] <nbd> a power limit
[10:13] <caldari> hmm
[10:13] <caldari> wl txpwr 100 = User Target: 20.00 dB
[10:13] <caldari> wl txpwr 84 = User Target: 19.25 dB
[10:14] <caldari> wl curpower shows the current tx power settings
[10:19] <cliffstah> hey hey
[10:22] <frop> re
[10:33] <locked> some news from the wag54g developers ?
[10:35] <z3ro> locked: hi
[10:35] <frop> kolter|kebab: i want one too
[10:35] <locked> i see one post on the linksysinfo
[10:35] <z3ro> I'm one of the people working on the wag54g... along with others here.
[10:35] <locked> that u and more guys are making a firmware
[10:36] <locked> cool
[10:36] <locked> z3ro
[10:36] <locked> the firmware that u are working is for wag54g 2 ?
[10:36] <z3ro> I'm only making kernel patches to support the wag54g's chipset... these patches would be added to openwrt.
[10:36] <z3ro> yes, only v2 runs linux.
[10:36] <locked> oh
[10:37] <locked> no news for wag54g 1.2 ?
[10:37] <nbd> it will probably never work
[10:37] <locked> oh
[10:37] <locked> its a forget router ? :|
[10:38] <z3ro> It does not run linux, so we have no reference to start from...
[10:38] <nbd> it's a 'return it if you can' router
[10:38] <frop> eheh
[10:39] <locked> but i have one question
[10:39] <locked> how i see if my router is 1.2 or 2 ?
[10:39] <z3ro> look on the sticker on the bottom of the router
[10:41] <locked> ok
[10:42] <locked> so any beta for the wag54g 2?
[10:42] <cliffstah> heh
[10:42] <nbd> locked: not yet.
[10:42] <cliffstah> so I swapped the NetGear for a Buffalo WLI-CB-54G again
[10:42] <cliffstah> but it's not broadcom lol...
[10:42] Action: SiD3WiNDR forgot.. which access point can run openwrt and have stuff attached via usb?
[10:42] <cliffstah> they did it again
[10:43] <frop> mmm...i'd like to remote logging, but adding -R <hostname>, make logread unuseful? should i add also -L? or -L is only for logging to /var/log/messagges?
[10:43] <cliffstah> it's a Texas Instruments ACX-111
[10:43] <nbd> SiD3WiNDR: asus wl-500g deluxe
[10:43] <locked> some have tested alternative firmwares to usr 9106 ?
[10:43] <SiD3WiNDR> thanks nbd
[10:43] <nbd> SiD3WiNDR: it's the most stable openwrt-compatible unit you can find :)
[10:43] <SiD3WiNDR> more stable than a wrt54g? :)
[10:44] <nbd> of course
[10:44] <frop> eheh...my moto is fucking stable...till now...
[10:44] <nbd> all wrt54g except v2.0 have some problem somewhere
[10:44] <SiD3WiNDR> heh
[10:44] <SiD3WiNDR> dunno
[10:44] <SiD3WiNDR> mine work fine
[10:44] <Dabian> I have an ASUS.
[10:44] <nbd> the newer units crash because of heat (and overclocking solves that sometimes) and the older ones got a nasty processor bug
[10:44] <SiD3WiNDR> I have a g 2.2 and a gs 1.1
[10:45] <cliffstah> I have a 2.2
[10:45] Action: nbd has a g v2.0 and an asus deluxe
[10:45] <cliffstah> nbd: for reference, the Buffalo WBR-54G crashes for heat really easily
[10:45] <cliffstah> really bad lol
[10:46] <nbd> cliffstah: i think that one has a processor bug, too
[10:46] <coob> overclocking stops heat problems? heh
[10:46] <frop> nbd: now i know why...
[10:46] <nbd> cliffstah: (v1 hardware)
[10:46] <nbd> frop: ?
[10:46] <Dabian> coob: Probably overclocking as in underclocking :-)
[10:46] <nbd> coob: weird, isn't it?
[10:46] <frop> why those models are the "only" really stable
[10:46] <frop> :)
[10:48] <coob> does anyone know if work is being done so that nas isn't needed for wap in AP mode?
[10:48] <Dabian> nas?
[10:48] <Dabian> Networking Audio System?
[10:48] <nbd> yay... the new wl version works with my new kernel patch :)
[10:49] <SiD3WiNDR> is it possible to run the openwrt and all the apps you install from the usb device?
[10:49] <SiD3WiNDR> so you can install more packages on it
[10:49] <nbd> SiD3WiNDR: needs some additional scripting stuff, but should work
[10:50] <frop> how much flash_ram has the wl-500gd
[10:50] <frop> ?
[10:50] <SiD3WiNDR> I'm tired of having a noisy and hot linux box doing my nat/gw/ap/..
[10:50] <frop> 4MB or 8MB?
[10:51] <nbd> 4 MB
[10:51] <SiD3WiNDR> eww ;)
[10:51] <nbd> but that doesn't really matter because of the usb
[10:51] <SiD3WiNDR> I was also looking at soekris stuff, but it's so expensive..
[10:51] <nbd> and you can fit a lot of stuff in 4 mb
[10:51] <SiD3WiNDR> yea but if you start from openwrt it's just about full, no? :)
[10:52] <frop> nbd it should be beauty use hydranode on it
[10:52] <frop> :)\
[10:52] <cliffstah> nbd: it was just unstable
[10:52] <cliffstah> so I took it back
[10:52] <cliffstah> got a wrt instead
[10:52] <cliffstah> it was a choice between buffalo, belkin and wrt
[10:52] <Dabian> Linksys also made a 650R or something.
[10:53] <Dabian> Any chance WRT will run on that?
[10:53] <Dabian> ahh
[10:53] <Dabian> guess I can look at the list.
[10:53] <Dabian> (first)
[10:53] <cliffstah> ooo
[10:53] <cliffstah> omg, native driver alert
[10:56] <chaimj> whats the difference between the left/right antenna ?
[10:58] <cliffstah> hehe
[10:58] Action: cliffstah bites his tongue
[10:58] <frop> mmm
[10:59] <frop> is OpenWrt log throught tcp or udp?
[11:00] <chaimj> if the right antenna is removed, it will be forced to use the left one
[11:00] <LiquidNerd> it doesn't use both?
[11:00] <chaimj> you mean one for tx / rx ?
[11:00] <LiquidNerd> yeah
[11:00] <caldari> wget http://212.251.76.76/wl for the 3.60 RC13.0 (3.60.13.0)
[11:01] <chaimj> well, the linksys documentation is solely lacking in the details...
[11:02] <nbd> next snapshot will use 3.90.23.0
[11:02] <chaimj> are the left/right antennas used for 802.11b & g respectively ?
[11:02] <Dabian> chaimj: You sure they both work?
[11:03] <coob> chaimj: read the wiki Nvram page
[11:03] <chaimj> so if you don't want it to use 802.11b, you remove that antenna ?
[11:03] <coob> um no
[11:03] <coob> wl0_antdiv
[11:03] <frop> mmhm
[11:03] <coob>
[11:03] <coob> Select antenna (-1=auto, 0=main[near power jack], 1=aux[near reset button], 3=diversity)
[11:03] <caldari> chaimj nope... if the wrt "listen" a device "better" from left ant will use that ant to transmit to that device
[11:04] <caldari> and the opposite
[11:04] <frop> could i use syslog-ng to log openwrt logs from syslog?
[11:04] <chaimj> I know, the default setting for wl0_antdiv=-1
[11:05] <chaimj> but some articles have suggested that it is 'better' to set it to 0 (ie. use main)
[11:06] <lecram> frop: just tell syslogd to log to a remote host
[11:06] <frop> lecram: ok...already done...
[11:06] <caldari> chaimj i use 0 cause i have external ant that transmits to the air... not inside the room
[11:06] <frop> ...i'm configuring the remote syslog-ng daemon now...
[11:06] <caldari> so i had to use only 1 ant1
[11:07] <chaimj> as the 2 antennas are so close to each other, can one side listen better to a device than the other ? (assuming they are both in vertical position)
[11:07] <frop> ...but i don't know how...as it want a "source", and i've to specify udp/port or tcp/port...
[11:08] <frop> so, it should be udp onto 514
[11:08] <lecram> frop: default is udp
[11:08] <lecram> yes
[11:08] <frop> ok
[11:08] <frop> thk
[11:09] <lecram> but 514 is the destination port, the source port can be anything
[11:09] <frop> mmmh
[11:09] <frop> i'll try without port
[11:11] <frop> * udp <ip>,<port> - network source using the UDP protocol. If you do not want to bind to a specific inter-
[11:11] <frop> face use 0.0.0.0.
[11:11] <frop> sorry
[11:11] <frop> * tcp <ip>,<port> - network source using the TCP protocol.
[11:11] <chaimj> 0 is the main antenna while the other one is just something that helps in the reception. the box is able to run on only 0
[11:11] <frop> tcp(ip("192.168.0.2") port(5140));
[11:21] Action: ralf is away ( http://www.autistici.org.nyud.net:8090/shockraver/ph0t0.htm)
[11:23] <z3ro> time for sleep. night all.
[11:39] <framer99> i'm getting "eth1: Argument list too long" from "wlconf eth1 up". I got it pinned down to a wlioctl call in wl_get_val() which is in wl.c specificially the wlioctl is WLC_GET_VAL on "cap". all this stems from wlconf area that is checking for the string afterburner in the "cap" value report from wl driver... any ideas?
[11:43] <nbd> framer99: does your wireless stuff work normally otherwise?
[11:44] <framer99> well it did.. honestly i havne't chekced it yet, i was just verifying a serial port i wiredin worked
[11:44] <SeRi> Can any body tell me what is the command to put the router in AP mode?
[11:44] <SeRi> Please.
[11:44] <framer99> my ap is on the bench gettinga serial port too, this one is a client mode setup
[11:45] <hrzags11> SeRI: in which mod is now ?
[11:45] <framer99> i'll workon buttoning things up and chekcing the wireless
[11:45] <SeRi> Ad Hoc
[11:45] <SeRi> I dont know why it was AP before
[11:46] <SeRi> I did wl status and it showed Ad Hoc
[11:47] <hrzags11> SeRi : http://openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Configuration
[11:48] <SeRi> Thanks hrzags11
[11:48] <hrzags11> SerI: http://openwrt.org/OpenWrtNVRAM
[11:49] <hrzags11> SeRi: Check what is in wl0_ variables
[11:51] <SeRi> ok going to check
[11:52] <hrzags11> SeRi: especialy wl0_mode
[11:52] <hrzags11> Either ap, sta or wet for Access Point mode, station mode or wireless ethernet bridge
[11:55] <SeRi> how can I see the mode?
[11:56] <hrzags11> nvram get wl0_mode
[11:57] <hrzags11> or nvram show | grep wl0_
[11:59] <SeRi> Thanks I got ap mode
[12:00] <SeRi> confusing.... it shows status as ad hoc but nvram is ap
[12:01] <hrzags11> so it iss AP. rebooting will use nvram options
[12:01] <SeRi> ok so going to reboot now... brb
[12:02] <hrzags11> O.k. :)
[12:06] <nbd> wbx: ping
[12:07] <nbd> does anybody here have a router that's crashing with current experimental?
[12:09] <hrzags11> nbg: I use wrt54gs v1.1 install curent experimental, it is working, but like I said last night I have problem vith freeradius, seg.fault, same package normaly work on previus experimental
[12:09] <nbd> hrzags11: i need someone with v1 hardware (wrt54g v1.X, asus wl500g)
[12:19] <nbd> hmm... no one with v1 hardware here?
[12:26] <SeRi> Still in ad hoc in wl status
[12:26] <SeRi> WTF.... :(
[12:28] <SeRi> Any ideas why it shows ad hoc status
[12:29] <hrzags11> SeRi: what exactly is your problem ?
[12:32] <SeRi> when I try to log in the wireles it see the router as ad hoc
[12:32] <hrzags11> SeRi: what you mean with log in ?
[12:33] <SeRi> even worst I dont see it at all
[12:33] <SeRi> when I run netstumbler it dont see my router at all
[12:33] <SeRi> mhhhhhh I think I know what it is
[12:33] <SeRi> brb
[12:34] <[mbm]> nbd: why v1 hardware?
[12:34] <caldari> 1 made my 1st package :)))
[12:34] <nbd> [mbm]: because it's still buggy and i want to test if my kernel changes help
[12:35] <nbd> [mbm]: there were some workarounds in the mips cache code in the montavista kernel, that wbx didn't integrate in our kernel source
[12:35] <nbd> [mbm]: maybe because the stuff was completely different from ours
[12:35] <nbd> [mbm]: i managed to integrate it, and the image works on the deluxe, and now i want to know if it helps with v1 hardware stability
[12:36] <nbd> caldari: what package did you make?
[12:37] <SeRi> ]got it
[12:37] <SeRi> I really apreciate the help
[12:37] <hrzags11> SeRi: :)
[12:37] <caldari> http://openwrt.labs.gr/packages/wl_3.60.13.00_mipsel.ipk
[12:37] <nbd> ah, ok. nothin that we can integrate
[12:38] <caldari> was my test to see how packages are made
[12:38] <nbd> it's easy, isn't it?
[12:38] <caldari> yeap :)
[12:38] <hrzags11> nbd: what heepend with Web administration ? wasnt plane to be in this experimental ?
[12:39] <nbd> hrzags11: well... needs to be written
[12:39] <caldari> i had to add at my S40network the following 2 commands:
[12:39] <caldari> WANGW=$(nvram get wan_gateway)
[12:39] <caldari> route add default gw $WANGW >/dev/null 2>&1
[12:39] <hrzags11> nbd: but some one on this chanel show me some beta version ?
[12:40] <nbd> hrzags11: yeah. unfortunately he's not very active at the moment
[12:40] <hrzags11> nbd: I forgot a nick ... hmmm
[12:40] <nbd> hrzags11: dumpedcore
[12:41] <hrzags11> nbd: O.K. ... I understand ... one more things I litle improve script fore starting pppoe who maintain that package in experimental ?
[12:41] <coob> heh heh WANG W </butthead>
[12:41] <nbd> hrzags11: just ask any dev (like me) :)
[12:42] <hrzags11> nbd : So I implement start, stop and info options
[12:42] <hrzags11> nbd: basicly script is runing in endless loop
[12:43] <caldari> the md4hash at packages is the hash of the ,ipk ?
[12:43] <hrzags11> nbd: and I would like to be able to stop it , so I implement that feature
[12:43] <caldari> md5 sorry
[12:43] <nbd> hrzags11: good idea
[12:44] <hrzags11> nbd: wood you like to see it ? ... I am not shel script master, but script work nice
[12:44] <nbd> hrzags11: of course
[12:45] <hrzags11> nbd:how to send you that script ?
[12:49] <hrzags11> nbd: I send it to you
[12:51] <nbd> hrzags11: thx
[12:51] <nbd> hrzags11: i'll test it next time i reflash my router
[12:53] <hrzags11> nbd: O.K. ... I have few user which are not familiar with unix, so fore sure I will have web page also for starting, stoping and looking a status of pppoe conection, but like many others, i will do that when I will have a time :))
[12:54] <nbd> hrzags11: we're already working on a web gui
[12:56] <hrzags11> nbd: I know , but I think ishould do that before gui will be finis :)
[13:02] <hrzags11> nbd: maybe you know wher to finde some how to, I have problem with DNS request when pppoe is set , it create resolve.conf, but dnsmasq doesnt use it
[13:04] <nbd> hrzags11: normally setting the nvram stuff for pppoe should be enough
[13:04] <nbd> hrzags11: it works on my router
[13:07] <hrzags11> nbd: pppoe, work fine, everything is O.k. with network, but when user try to resolve DNS request using 192.168.1.1 it got some request forbidin or something like that ... in documentation is writent taht router doesnt use dnsmasq to resolve DNS it use instade DNS from ISP, but dnsmasq must be able to resolve DNS request form LAN, wifi using ISP DNS, but that doesnt look like working
[13:47] <Ge0rG> hm. flashed new experimental and nuffin works
[13:49] <nbd> Ge0rG: ?
[13:50] <Ge0rG> nbd: I'm debugging it right now... might well be that one of my own init scripts goes mad on me
[13:51] <Ge0rG> nbd: were there changes in the wl driver since yesterday?
[13:53] <nbd> Ge0rG: you mean in cvs head?
[13:53] <nbd> Ge0rG: a lot of stuff has changed there
[13:53] <Ge0rG> nbd: I've seen a lot of changes, yeah - but I wasn't looking for anything special - and now I won't get an association in station mode
[13:54] <Ge0rG> I'm going to install wl now, maybe it shows something of interest
[13:57] <Ge0rG> eth1: Broadcom BCM4320 802.11 Wireless Controller 3.90.23.0
[13:57] <Ge0rG> hm... everything looks sane, but I'm not associated
[14:03] <Ge0rG> nbd: could you help me out with debugging that one please? :)
[14:03] <nbd> i'll try it in a minute...
[14:03] <Ge0rG> ok :)
[14:03] <ixs> Ge0rG: hallo. echt kleine welt hier. ;-D
[14:03] <Ge0rG> ixs: :)
[14:04] <Ge0rG> ixs: sieht man sich auf dem linuxtag?
[14:04] <ixs> probably.
[14:20] <Ge0rG> there is also some strange bug in ipkg, where it doesn't find a package when making "ipkg install http://.../file.ipk" or "ipkg install ./file.ipk"
[14:21] <Ge0rG> but it works when I put that package into a repository and just do an install
[14:27] <nbd> Ge0rG: associating with the new image works just fine here
[14:27] <nbd> Ge0rG: though i used iwconfig and not wl
[14:27] <nbd> Ge0rG: i just did iwconfig eth1 mode managed; iwconfig eth1 essid b0rken
[14:27] <nbd> Ge0rG: and it associated immediately
[14:27] <Ge0rG> nbd: I'm using wep here
[14:28] <cliffstah> re
[14:28] <Ge0rG> and iwconfig won't change the WEP settings
[14:28] <nbd> ah, ok. wep is not implemented fully yet (in iwconfig, i mean)
[14:28] <nbd> i'll probably do it tomorrow (getting a bit tired now
[14:29] <cliffstah> pah
[14:29] <cliffstah> wimp
[14:29] <cliffstah> :P
[14:30] <nbd> does anyone here have older hardware that crashes with experimental?
[14:30] <nbd> (asus wl-500g, linksys wrt54g v1.x, etc.)
[14:30] <nbd> nobody?
[14:30] <nbd> strange
[14:31] <cliffstah> nopers, I had a WBR that did
[14:31] <Ge0rG> nbd: and could you throw a look at http://phpfi.com/63702 please?
[14:32] <cliffstah> but just got rid of it
[14:33] <nbd> Ge0rG: wow. weird. i'll have a look
[14:33] <Ge0rG> nbd: strace -f hangs with ipkg, and without -f I don't see anything meaningful
[14:33] Action: nbd will look at the source
[14:34] <Ge0rG> interestingly I can install other packages, like wl from http://nthill.free.fr/openwrt/ipkg/stable/20041003/wl_0.1-2_mipsel.ipk
[14:35] <wigyori> re
[14:36] <Ge0rG> heh, I can't use yesterdays wl.o with todays kernel.
[14:39] <nbd> of course not
[14:39] <nbd> all the system stuff changed
[14:40] <Ge0rG> so I'm backgrading to yesterdays image for now
[14:40] <Ge0rG> and I'm back on line
[14:42] <Ge0rG> is it possible that wl 3.90 has yet another way to parse wl0_wep?
[14:43] <nbd> Ge0rG: we probably need to change wlconf
[14:44] Action: DarkDream sga time ;)
[14:44] <nbd> Ge0rG: unfortunately the new wlconf versions are binary only
[14:44] <Ge0rG> nbd: hm... that sucks
[14:44] <nbd> Ge0rG: perhaps this would be a good opportunity to start my wlconf rewrite
[14:45] <Ge0rG> wlconf as a shell script using iwconfig? ;)
[14:45] <nbd> Ge0rG: no, a c program.
[14:45] <nbd> Ge0rG: but it'll use the wireless extension for standard stuff
[14:45] <nbd> Ge0rG: and the broadcom ioctls for broadcom-specific stuff
[14:46] Action: Ge0rG is going to cross compile ltrace now
[14:46] <nbd> Ge0rG: doesn't work
[14:46] <Ge0rG> whoops.
[14:46] <nbd> Ge0rG: ltrace doesn't have mips support
[14:46] <nbd> Ge0rG: i tried to port it already
[14:46] <[mbm]> ltrace never worked on mips; depends on the elf reloc tables which are setup differently on the mips platforms
[15:07] <Kaloz> nbd: good opportunity to nuke wlconf, and do everything it can via iwconfig and iwpriv? :P
[15:15] <wbx> re
[15:16] <[mbm]> .
[15:17] <coder> -.-
[15:22] <ralf> Kaloz: hi
[15:22] <ralf> Kaloz: the full name of the ATM modem device?
[15:25] <Kaloz> ralf: err, you mean "z3ro", right?
[15:25] <Kaloz> :)
[15:26] <ralf> Kaloz: did you haven't the dsl 604t too?
[15:26] <Kaloz> oh, yes i do have one for testing
[15:26] <Kaloz> temporary :p
[15:27] <Kaloz> the modules was named tiatm.o, but no idea what is the full name really
[15:27] <ralf> in #handhelds.org there are many people good with embedded machines
[15:27] <ralf> there is also the author of the acx111 driver
[15:27] <ralf> i', discussing about the tiatm module
[15:28] <Kaloz> http://www.ti.com/corp/docs/landing/ar7vwi/index.htm
[15:30] <ralf> <AndiM> ralf: now our driver sorta supports x86, x86-64, PPC, MIPS, ...
[15:31] <ralf> http://www.ti.com/corp/docs/landing/ar7vwi/index.htm
[15:31] <ralf> oops
[15:32] Action: Ge0rG gives up for today
[15:39] Action: DarkDream gnite :)
[15:44] Action: ralf is away ( http://www.autistici.org.nyud.net:8090/shockraver/ph0t0.htm)
[16:08] <Death_INC> does robocfg work? heh
[16:13] <Death_INC> I can't get my port to do tagging on my gs 2.2 but it works fine on the gs 1.1 with kmod-adm6996
[17:21] <Death_INC> lol
[17:46] <Death_INC> something isn't reaping children in the new experimental
[17:54] <haa42> how do i separate the ports into individual interfaces in the experimental build ? ( no admcfg! )
[17:54] <Death_INC> robocfg
[17:55] <Death_INC> or kmod-adm6996
[17:55] <Death_INC> depening on hardware
[17:55] <Death_INC> well
[17:55] <Death_INC> no need to use them
[17:55] <Death_INC> set your nvram variables and the driver will do it
[17:55] <Death_INC> vlan[0-9]ports
[17:55] <Death_INC> could use higher, but no need
[17:56] <Death_INC> also need vlan[0-9]hwname
[17:56] <Death_INC> I have to use adm6996/robocfg because I'm doing trunking
[18:01] <haa42> i did but i dont see any new vlans
[18:01] <haa42> should i add them manually with vconfig ?
[18:04] <haa42> i cant ping the box via the port i made vlan2 in nvram
[18:05] <haa42> but there is no vlan2 in ifconfig -a
[18:08] <SeRi> any body would know how to turn the light on behind the cisco logo via command?
[18:09] <SeRi> I try looking on /proc but nothing there
[19:05] <Himeko> i'm looking on the wiki at the mtd instructions, but how could the firmware fit in /tmp when df shows the total space, let alone free space, is too small?
[19:05] <[mbm]> /tmp is ram; the firmware will easily fit
[19:06] <Himeko> ah, ok
[19:12] <ToR\L> hehe
[19:12] <ToR\L> I have an XH v2 wrt
[19:12] <ToR\L> with 16 megs of ram, not 32
[19:15] <Himeko> did you link to a picture or somehting in your post?
[19:18] <ToR\L> no link to another post
[19:18] <ToR\L> my chips are definitely 16
[19:18] <ToR\L> they have a 400 on them instead of 800
[19:22] <LiquidNerd> ToR\L, I can't get to the page you posted without logging in
[19:25] <LiquidNerd> how exactly do I tell if I can fix my thing to have more room?
[19:56] <Himeko> hmm
[19:57] <Himeko> both power and dmz lights are solid, i saw that mentioned as caused by old/corrupt jffs but how do i fix
[19:57] <Himeko> oh ya, failsafe mode
[20:03] <coder> it's slePP
[20:10] <Himeko> is there still supposed to be a jffs dir after loading a squashfs build?
[20:11] <Eagle_Fire> yes
[20:11] <Eagle_Fire> squashfs just means the basic filesystem is on squashfs
[20:11] <Eagle_Fire> the modifiable filesystem is still jffs2
[20:13] <Himeko> ic
[20:14] <Himeko> i though the squashfs versions did away with jffs altogether
[20:14] <Eagle_Fire> no
[20:14] <Eagle_Fire> in the beginning there was a jffs+squashfs hybrid
[20:14] <Eagle_Fire> the jffs2 does away with squashfs altogether
[20:16] <Himeko> oh, i grabbed the wrong build then
[20:16] <Himeko> heh
[20:31] <Himeko> hmm
[20:31] <Himeko> i can't remove symlinks
[20:39] <Himeko> ah, this is better
[20:39] <Himeko> ok, maybe not
[20:52] <SeRi> Eagle_Fire I have a quick question for you if you dont mind.
[20:52] <Eagle_Fire> ?
[20:53] <SeRi> Do you know if the light behind the cisco logo in the GS V3 can be turn on by command?
[20:53] <Eagle_Fire> yes i do
[20:53] <Eagle_Fire> and yes it can
[20:53] <Eagle_Fire> in fact there are two lights behind it
[20:53] <Eagle_Fire> of different colors
[20:53] <SeRi> yea I know there is three
[20:53] <SeRi> I mean 2
[20:53] <SeRi> one is white other amber
[20:53] <Eagle_Fire> yup
[20:54] <SeRi> can you please point me in the right direction on how to turn it on in my G v3 and GS v2?
[20:54] <SeRi> been trying too for a while all ready
[20:54] <Eagle_Fire> you need the gpio program from http://openwrt.org/downloads
[20:55] <SeRi> can get it. I only saw it on when I had the linksys
[20:55] <SeRi> beta firmware installed
[20:55] <Eagle_Fire> i don't know which gpio they're connected to, but inh would know
[20:55] <SeRi> ok going to check it out
[20:56] <SeRi> is inh around?
[20:56] <Eagle_Fire> !seen inh
[20:56] <Eagle_Fire> he's around sometimes
[20:56] <SeRi> ic
[20:58] <SeRi> wget :) brb
[20:59] <Himeko> fuck i hate vim
[21:01] <SeRi> ok I have the ipkg in /tmp/root
[21:01] <SeRi> do I move it any where in specific?
[21:03] <Eagle_Fire> you want the gpio program somewhere in a bin directory
[21:03] <SeRi> got it
[21:05] <SeRi> ic sorry for so many questions bro new to openwrt...
[21:09] <SeRi> mhhh the bin dir is read only...
[21:09] <SeRi> /bin
[21:10] <Himeko> damn, now i can't find which package site i got nano from
[21:11] <Eagle_Fire> just use vi
[21:11] <Eagle_Fire> it's better anyway
[21:11] <Eagle_Fire> also, http://nthill.free.fr/openwrt/tracker/packages/
[21:12] <Himeko> yes i added that already to ipkg.conf
[21:12] <Eagle_Fire> ...you're not supposed to use that in ipkg, it's a website to browse for packages
[21:13] <Himeko> i mean i added http://nthill.free.fr/openwrt/tracker/packages/
[21:14] <Himeko> damn
[21:14] <Himeko> clipboard is broken again
[21:14] <Himeko> i meant ot say http://nthill.free.fr/openwrt/ipkg
[21:15] <Himeko> i didn't read the url you pasted that closely
[21:15] <Eagle_Fire> yeah good job there
[21:19] <inh> hey
[21:19] <inh> gotta run tho
[21:19] <inh> but its the gpios for the 2 leds and switch
[21:19] <inh> #define SD_DI (1 << 2) //white led
[21:19] <inh> #define SD_DO (1 << 3) //orange led
[21:19] <inh> #define SD_CLK (1 << 4) //cisco switch
[21:19] <inh> #define SD_CS (1 << 7) //dmz led
[21:20] <inh> i dont use dmz led tho. that was for ship selesct. ijsutconnect that to ground
[21:20] <inh> and im off
[21:20] <Eagle_Fire> bye inh
[21:20] <inh> stayin at a freinds, goin dirtbike ridin in the morning
[21:20] <inh> readup SeRi
[21:20] <Himeko> nice, packges that seem to install, but don't actually work
[21:20] <Eagle_Fire> hooray for packages
[21:22] <SeRi> hey inh :)
[21:22] <SeRi> Thats what I am doing right now
[21:22] <SeRi> Just trying to figure owt how to turn the light on
[21:22] <SeRi> how*
[21:22] <Eagle_Fire> seri: white led on = "gpio disable 2"
[21:22] <Eagle_Fire> off = "gpio enable 2"
[21:23] <Eagle_Fire> for the orange one use 3 instead of 2
[21:23] <SeRi> ok cool so I untar the gpio and install it than run the command. right now I have it in /tmp/root can I run it from there?
[21:24] <Eagle_Fire> you're not a linux person are you
[21:24] <SeRi> nope sory I been running debian for a while now just bearling learning.
[21:24] <SeRi> bearly have time between work and home.. kinda sux...
[21:25] <Eagle_Fire> no time for spelling either, apparently
[21:25] <SeRi> sorry I am not american
[21:25] <Eagle_Fire> anyways, i recommend copying the gpio binary to /usr/sbin
[21:28] <SeRi> Thanks Eagle
[21:29] <SeRi> going to give it a try. ooo before you start hating me I dont run windows ether I run Mac OSX and thats at work.. :)
[22:22] <Himeko> hmm, wireless does come up with the new build
[22:22] <Himeko> er doesn't
[22:48] <SeRi> Eagle_Fire Just wanted to tell you I got the light on. :)
[22:48] <SeRi> Thanks for all the help
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