[00:16] <Drazak_> can someone point me to the guide on setting up the wrt as a bridge?
[00:17] <matteo> weeti: how goes the 2.6 stuff?
[00:20] <gr8w11ne> Drazak: http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Configuration 3.5 &3.6
[00:26] <XShocK> does anybody know the cheapest router with linux? i don't need Wifi, just barebone ethernet. 100 mbit
[00:27] <J4k3> XShocK: fastest method (and most power consumption) is find a 486-or-better PC in a dumpster, add a couple ethernet cards.
[00:28] <J4k3> swolf: it'll run openwrt, but the wireless won't be supported
[00:28] <XShocK> J4k3, i need a very small device. i already use Dual 450mhz, 512mb "under-the-table-device" :)
[00:28] <J4k3> you can put another (supported) adapter in the minipci slot though
[00:28] <XShocK> i need a replacement.
[00:28] <mbishop> or find someone to give you a sparcstation20....really, they'll probably beg you to take it
[00:28] <J4k3> I've given up on begging people to take my sparc1 ;)
[00:29] <J4k3> all 20 mhz of it.
[00:29] <XShocK> lol
[00:30] <swolf> J4k3: I'm afraid that's not possible.. is there any other firmware you know of supporting the x2? (including wifi :D)
[00:32] <SkyNetIsHere_com> yo J4k3...
[00:32] <J4k3> yo
[00:33] <swolf> btw: is there any difference between the wrt54gx2 and the wap54gx2? google spit out a forum-entry that had an entry about firmware upgrades for the wap54gx2 linked to a linksys-firmware download for the wrt54gx2
[00:36] <Dabian> What is the default password?
[00:36] <Dabian> (SSH)
[00:37] <gr8w11ne> Dabian: password is whatever you set it to :)
[00:37] <Dabian> ahh .. thats right
[00:37] <Dabian> Thanks .. I guess that means I locked myself out (again).
[00:37] <Dabian> Or was there a way with holding the reset button?
[00:38] <olli_04> Dabian: RTFM
[00:38] <Dabian> (The website doesn't seem to load right now .. besides, I just want to upgrade dropbear)
[00:38] <Dabian> Oh . there it was ... just slow.
[00:38] <gr8w11ne> Dabian: be careful with that reset button
[00:39] <Dabian> gr8w11ne : How so?
[00:39] <Dabian> Has the meaning changed since expirimental?
[00:40] <Hecktjui> Kaloz around?
[00:40] <gr8w11ne> Dabian: because you can clear your nvram settings if used incorrectly
[00:40] <Dabian> Ouch
[00:41] <Dabian> that *would* be bad..
[00:41] <Dabian> gr8w11ne : I have an asus, deluxe model. I just want to crack (change) the password. Which way is better?
[00:44] <Dabian> (Doesn't seem to be covered by the FAQ, for some odd reason - forgetting ones password is the most common error your users make when you're sysadmin - well, apart from space in the login name, wrong case and stuff like that).
[00:45] <Dabian> The reason I want to upgrade dropbear, is because of the exploid that will soon be in the wild . . .
[00:45] <joneskoo> Dabian: as discussed earlier, it won't be a problem
[00:46] <joneskoo> Dabian: I heard it only matters if you have normal user access already
[00:46] <Dabian> joneskoo : Oh .. so OpenWrt is not vounable?
[00:46] <joneskoo> Dabian: it is, in a way, but it doesn't matter with one-user systems
[00:46] <mbishop> it's a local exploit
[00:47] <Dabian> joneskoo : I understand .. you need access to gain access. :-)
[00:47] <joneskoo> Dabian: and if root is the only user, it won't help at all.
[00:47] <joneskoo> this seems to be a hot topic, popping up on the channel quite often
[00:47] <Dabian> I guess its the ole OpenBSD hole ... priviledge drop ..
[00:48] <Dabian> joneskoo : I just got a security mail about it. So I thought .. oh no .. I have to fiddle with my router again. :/
[00:48] <joneskoo> Dabian: heh. I think it's reasonably safe to wait until rc5
[00:48] <Dabian> Should have read the mail, I guess. :-)
[00:50] <Dabian> Package : dropbear
[00:50] <Dabian> Vulnerability : buffer overflow
[00:50] <Dabian> Problem type : local (remote)
[00:51] <Dabian> joneskoo, gr8w11ne : Thanks for the help!
[00:51] <Dabian> Now I can sleep. :-)
[00:52] <reiffert> and the exploit was a buffer overflow when parsing over 1024 chars?
[00:52] <Kamel> i have this question that's digging into me, and it's driving insane. i've been through multiple pages of wiki, forum, and google searches, so forgive me if sound desperate lol
[00:53] <reiffert> there is only one wiki, the openwrt wiki :))
[00:53] <Kamel> i need QoS to work on openwrt, but i need it to make absolute sure that someone playing an online game will not lag while using bit torrent
[00:53] <Weedy> qos is still being developed
[00:53] <Kamel> i think maybe that needs downstream qos?
[00:53] <danderson> forget any possibilities of absolute when negociating QoS
[00:53] <danderson> for starters
[00:53] <Kamel> but i don't know :'(
[00:53] <reiffert> Kamel: stop bittorrent while playing. save time and brain and works.
[00:53] <Weedy> Kamel, more likly upstream qos
[00:54] <Weedy> it's very had to max out your dl with only bt
[00:54] <joneskoo> Weedy: no it's not
[00:54] <Weedy> I have 5mbits down
[00:54] <Weedy> yes it is
[00:54] <joneskoo> Weedy: I have 10M half.
[00:55] <joneskoo> (half duplex I mean)
[00:55] <Kamel> danderson: i understand that i wont get any absolute results, but as long as it atleast somewhat works it will be enough
[00:57] <Nichotin> Weedy: umm, what kind of trackers are you on? I max my two 10Mbits in no time. Even both ways
[00:57] <joneskoo> Kamel: bittorrent is quite difficult for QoS, because it has so many connections. don't expect to get too great results on some slowish ADSL
[00:58] <joneskoo> actually, ADSLs are all slowish upstream so s/slowish //;
[00:58] <Weedy> Nichotin, well the stuff I want isnt normaly in well seeded torrents are I only have 100kb/s upload
[00:58] <Kamel> well, the bit torrent client that's used can limit the upload, so that's not too big of a deal
[00:58] <Weedy> so maxing all 700kb/s download with that much upload is hard
[00:59] <danderson> upload limiting doesn't limit the number of incoming/outgoing connections
[00:59] <danderson> they're the ones that will be hurting your connection
[00:59] <joneskoo> Kamel: it may still get awful bursts that fill the conenction for say 400 ms at a time
[00:59] <joneskoo> Kamel: and that's quite nasty for gaming
[00:59] Action: nbd doesn't get that kind of bursts with his qos scripts
[00:59] <nbd> (and ed2k+torrent on 128kbit/s upload)
[01:00] <Kamel> well, the game is an mmorpg, so lag isn't a huge factor
[01:00] <Kamel> but with bit torrent maxing out the bandwidth, it does lag to the point where they get disconnected
[01:00] <joneskoo> luckily I don't have ADSL any more. 10M symmetric is sooo much nicer, no need for QoS.
[01:01] <joneskoo> the only slowness comes from 10M half duplex getting collisions, not some buffer in ADSL modem
[01:01] <jakllsch> joneskoo: what is this LRE?
[01:01] <joneskoo> jakllsch: yes.
[01:01] <joneskoo> jakllsch: I'd use 100M half but this Cisco stuff gets unstable then :(
[01:02] <joneskoo> jakllsch: it kills PPPoE pretty much if there's say 15 second downtime
[01:02] <joneskoo> I know, PPPoE is devil's invention, but can't help it.
[01:04] <joneskoo> actually.. by any chance, are the some Cisco experts on this channel? I heard a rumour there's a trick to get Cisco LRE to work stable at better speeds than 10M half duplex
[01:04] <usual> Hi, I am new to the project. I am curious, is openwrt a light debian install on a linksys router?
[01:04] <joneskoo> and it's a known bug it has issues at 100M half duplex
[01:05] <z3ro> usual: it's a custom distro. it has nothing to do with debian.
[01:05] <joneskoo> I'd really like to have 100M half or so link to Cisco 575 LRE, because then I'd get 1.25 MiB/s down and up (10400 kbit/s measured actual speed after tcp and ethernet overheads)
[01:05] <z3ro> usual: openwrt is based on uclibc's buildroot.
[01:06] <usual> z3ro, ok, I thought I saw somewhere it said something about debian. I am going over what appear to be the few replacement firmwares out there and openwrt came up
[01:07] <joneskoo> usual: openwrt might feel a bit like debian or openbsd in some aspects. it gives you the power to do pretty much what you want
[01:07] <usual> joneskoo, ok...all cli?
[01:08] <joneskoo> usual: there's some web admin in rc4
[01:08] <joneskoo> usual: I prefer ssh interface though
[01:08] <z3ro> usual: but, if you don't know gnu/linux *FORGET* about openwrt.
[01:08] <joneskoo> web interfaces remind me of a certain manufacturer that starts with d-lin*
[01:09] <joneskoo> and not in a good way
[01:09] <usual> ahhh...does it work on the new GL router
[01:09] <joneskoo> though rc4's web interface is pretty neat
[01:09] <z3ro> usual: wiki.openwrt.org
[01:09] <z3ro> usual: or wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
[01:11] <usual> thank you guys
[01:11] <joneskoo> I'm so happy I bought two of these WRT54GS
[01:11] <joneskoo> they're so great
[01:11] <joneskoo> 8M flash is roomy and 32 MB RAM rocks.
[01:12] <joneskoo> 14 MB memory in use
[01:12] <wbx> joneskoo: what are you doing with so much RAM and FLASH?
[01:12] <joneskoo> wbx: I said it's roomy :)
[01:12] <joneskoo> 2,4 MB flash free
[01:12] <joneskoo> lighttpd ate a lot of space :)
[01:12] <joneskoo> and microperl some
[01:16] <joneskoo> sorry, I misread. I have 3,4 MB flash free now, after just installing tcpdump as well
[01:17] <olli_04> lol, someone added a 3com router with 1mb flash to the tableofhardware
[01:17] <joneskoo> ouch
[01:17] <joneskoo> that's like... I'd feel claustrophobic
[01:18] <joneskoo> wtf, a buffalo has 64 MB RAM :)
[01:18] <olli_04> tof shows now lots of "End of edit conflict"
[01:19] <joneskoo> soekris with 128M, but that's another story. they're quite expensive
[01:27] <rop> Hey there
[01:27] <wbx> rop: what happened to your php web frontend for openwrt?
[01:27] <rop> Ofcourse everyone here knows about the dropbear hole already. I was not reading much news lately, so I just found out.
[01:28] <rop> wbx: I'm still working. www.what-a-mesh.net.
[01:28] <wbx> i think the dropbear hole is only critical for systems with user accounts.
[01:28] <rop> wbx: ignode the dummy texts, go for download.what-a-mesh.net
[01:28] <rop> like 'root' ?
[01:29] <rop> Ah, I see.
[01:29] <rop> 'Authenticated users' can run code as root.
[01:29] <rop> duh
[01:29] <denon> "Dropbear server versions prior to 0.47 have a buffer sizing error that may allow authenticated users to run code as the server user (usually root). "
[01:29] <rop> I was not reading straight.
[01:29] <denon> so, no more running your shell server on a linksys wrt :)
[01:29] <rop> 'tis what you get at 01:30 sometimes.
[01:30] <wbx> rop: but i will update the package soon, because it solves the client problems, too
[01:30] <rop> I'll kick off the 250 users from my shell-box then
[01:30] <rop> give it a rest
[01:31] <denon> hehe
[01:31] <rop> I'm looking forward to the CCC Congress.
[01:31] <denon> yeah, 250 users with like a few meg of ram
[01:31] <wbx> oh, i see kaloz already updated to 0.47...
[01:31] <wbx> rop: are you doing network organization this year?
[01:31] <rop> Well, yes and no.
[01:32] <rop> Yes, I am, formally. No: eerything is rnning smoothly so far, and my job is only really imporatnt if it doesn't
[01:32] <rop> So I guess I'll be sitting at the NOC-helpdesk mostly
[01:34] <rop> impressive 10 GBps stuff, at least partly working wireless, network from all outlets.... :)
[01:34] Action: webmind looking forward to your talk actually.. curious :)
[01:35] <rop> yeah, me too. Frank and I will need to get our act together RSN
[01:35] <rop> :)
[01:35] <denon> rop: what event is this?
[01:35] <rop> CCC congress
[01:36] <rop> 27-30 dec, Berlin, Germany
[01:36] <rop> www.ccc.de
[01:36] <webmind> http://events.ccc.de/congress/2005/
[01:36] <denon> ah .. lil far to travel for me
[01:36] <webmind> :)
[01:36] <rop> Went to my first CCC Congress in 1988. I'm getting old.
[01:36] <webmind> ouch
[01:36] <webmind> mine in 2001 :)
[01:36] <denon> course, if you have 10Gbps traveling over airwaves, I'd rather not be anywhere near!
[01:36] <denon> </kidding> :)
[01:37] <webmind> awell.. its late.. gnite
[01:37] <rop> The 10GBps is doing fibers for now. Soon though... Sooner than you think...
[01:37] Action: rop is off to bed too
[01:38] <rop> Later all
[01:38] <wbx> bye rop
[01:38] Action: wbx is flashing his last image for today
[01:38] <rop> (And excuse my panicmongering before reading entire news-article)
[01:39] <rop> (aaargh, these channel-logs are on the web. People will read this stuff long after I have become president... :)
[01:39] <wbx> lol
[01:39] <rop> There goes my bid for world-domination
[01:40] <rop> Guess I'll have to do the rock-star thing now. Second best, but mroe girls... :)
[01:40] <rop> more
[01:40] <rop> anyway, sleep well.
[01:41] <wbx> 2.4.32 boots on netgear. nice. n8
[01:50] <Trou> has anyone ever mexxed with CFE that includes LZMA ?
[01:50] <Trou> messed
[01:52] <zinx> a CFE that does?
[01:54] <Trou> i got a CFE that loads a compressed kernel
[01:54] <Trou> and this kernel is LZMA compressed*
[01:54] <Trou> well there are 2 stages in CFE even
[01:55] <Trou> basic loader unpacks 2nd stage which is LZMA compressed
[01:55] <Trou> and the 2nd stage then unpacks the LZMA'd kernel
[01:55] <Trou> and I do not manage to unpack the LZMA stream
[01:58] <Hecktjui> is it a problem compiling with gcc-4.0 ??
[02:01] <Hecktjui> I see a Ticket in dev, GCC4 support assigned... What ggc should I use
[02:01] <Hecktjui> gcc even
[02:04] <Trou> Hecktjui use any 3.x
[02:04] <Trou> 3.4 for example
[02:04] <Hecktjui> Trou: ok thanks
[02:05] <moonwatcher> hello?
[02:05] <moonwatcher> anyone here?
[02:06] <moonwatcher> or are you all out chopping trees?
[02:09] <moonwatcher> i guess so
[02:17] <cplusplus> what do you think about Linksys Wireless-G Broadband Router with SRX ?
[02:33] <Growly|Work> hellooo
[02:36] <cplusplus> ;-)
[02:41] <cplusplus> n8
[03:28] <turtlboy> i don't know a lot about radio, and was wondering if a highly directional antenna (~18 dBi) aimed at an unmodified access point will increase only transmit ability? or does the directionality work for both transmitting and receiving?
[03:28] <J4k3> turtlboy: works both ways
[03:28] <turtlboy> just as well both ways? or does it favor one direction?
[03:28] <J4k3> turtlboy: with a 24dbi antenna and a clear view, you can hit a 'basic stock ap' sitting in a window 7 miles away.
[03:28] <J4k3> with LOS of course.
[03:28] <J4k3> just as well both ways
[03:29] <turtlboy> cool, that's what i thought, but wasn't sure
[03:29] <J4k3> what makes the antenna have gain when transmitting is the exact same things that give it gain receiving
[03:30] <turtlboy> so, with 24dbi, 7 miles with 'stock' on the other side? is that an exaggeration?
[03:30] <turtlboy> that's very far
[03:30] <J4k3> well, the AP is in a window sitting on the 2nd story of a house sitting on a 40 ft hill, and the test was done 100 ft up a 150 ft tower 7 miles away
[03:31] <J4k3> with nothing but creek valley in between
[03:31] <J4k3> mostly ranches, few trees.
[03:31] <turtlboy> oh, this is a real-world scenario?
[03:31] <J4k3> yes, I've done it
[03:31] <J4k3> client card was a senao 200mW prism2 11b pcmcia
[03:32] <turtlboy> wow
[03:43] <turtlboy> what's the default power output of a wrt54g?
[03:44] <J4k3> 50mW-ish
[03:44] <turtlboy> that's pretty weak, then.
[03:45] <turtlboy> and i hear that the receive sensitivity is kinda crappy too
[03:46] <J4k3> yes
[03:46] <J4k3> its not very well designed from an RF standpoint
[03:48] <turtlboy> i wonder what kind of LOS range i could get with a wrt54g with a 18 dbi antenna
[03:48] <turtlboy> 1/2 mile?
[03:49] <J4k3> 2-3 miles
[03:49] <J4k3> you get much farther than that you start having ack timing issues.
[03:49] <Eagle_Fire> can those issues be overcome?
[03:49] <turtlboy> what causes timing issues?
[03:49] <turtlboy> doesn't the radio signal go at speed of light
[03:49] <Eagle_Fire> speed of light isn't fast enough :)
[03:50] <Eagle_Fire> .11b/g was designed to work over small distances
[03:50] <Eagle_Fire> so it expects an ACK in short order
[03:50] <Eagle_Fire> otherwise it thinks the packet got dropped
[03:51] <turtlboy> what about these people setting records at 50 miles with giant dishes?
[03:51] <turtlboy> what causes ack timing problems with one setup vs. another?
[03:52] <J4k3> distance between stations... and different radios handle the timing different
[03:53] <J4k3> broadcom's drivers have the timing fixed inside... no way to 'hack' it
[03:54] <turtlboy> with your 7 mile link, did you have to change anything on the senao?
[04:07] <turtlboy> exit
[04:07] <turtlboy> ...
[04:27] <[mbm]> .
[04:31] <Kamel> .
[04:31] <[mbm]> ..
[04:31] <Kamel> ...
[04:31] <[mbm]> .
[04:32] <Kamel> ..
[04:33] <joneskoo> &
[04:40] <J4k3> ..!..
[04:43] <[mbm]> http://downloads.openwrt.org/people/mbm/useless_trivia_faq
[04:48] <pablo> how are you?
[04:48] <pablo> can irssi and screen run on wrt54g?
[04:49] <pablo> wow
[04:49] <bri3d> Yes yes they can
[04:49] <pablo> does openwrt has perl and lwp?
[04:50] <bri3d> It can
[04:50] <bri3d> well perl
[04:50] <jakllsch> microperl; yes. but that's not enough to run cowsay :(
[04:50] <bri3d> and lwp for that matter
[04:50] <bri3d> lol
[04:50] <bri3d> You can put full perl on it if you attach USB storage
[04:50] <bri3d> it doesn't run very well thoug
[04:50] <bri3d> *though
[04:51] <pablo> ok, which wrt54g version will you recmmend me?
[04:51] <pablo> 2, 2.2 3 or 4?
[04:51] <Hecktjui> YES, compiled and installed kamikaze on a WRT.... So far so good
[04:52] <pablo> can i run an eggdrop on my wrt54g?
[04:55] <HolyB> ...
[04:55] <hd420> pablo: why would you want to do that?
[04:56] <pablo> just experimenting
[04:56] <gr8w11ne> pablo: depends which version you can get
[04:56] <pablo> and why not?
[04:56] <pablo> which is the best version?
[04:57] <pablo> on which version is it possible to do that?
[04:58] <hd420> I have a Vonage-branded wrtp54g, if I install openwrt on this device, will it work properly with vonage? If not, is it easy to undo the installation
[04:58] <hd420> ?
[05:00] <gr8w11ne> hd420: did you look in the tableofhardware in the wiki? What sort of chipset does it have?
[05:01] <gr8w11ne> hd420: ??
[05:01] <hd420> gr8w11ne: I've looked at the hardware table and have no idea what sort of chipset it has
[05:02] Action: gr8w11ne is codifying his multiple "?" language to rival the "." language
[05:03] <hd420> very good, gr8w11ne
[05:06] <gr8w11ne> hd420: and did you read the WIP link?
[05:07] <hd420> I see it now... this doesn't look like it's going to work for me, maybe in a few months
[05:08] <pablo> which is the best? linksys wrt54g 2, 2.2 3 or 4?
[05:09] <Stereo> 4
[05:09] <Stereo> not 5 in any case
[05:09] <pablo> no, i know
[05:09] <gr8w11ne> pablo: probably version 4 because it doesn't require a stability fix - but I only own a GS
[05:09] <pablo> in 4 will i be able to put an eggdrop?
[05:15] <kRutOn> I noticed v4 at Best Buy today for $39
[05:15] <Growly|Work> oooooooo wl 3.9...
[05:27] <J4k3> 3 is the best.
[05:27] <J4k3> for overall support.
[05:37] <Hecktjui> night all
[05:43] <duab> hey
[05:44] <duab> is there a way to 'peer' two wireless routers ?
[05:44] <duab> so that they can talk to each other ?
[05:46] <duab> more specific and ontopic question, can you install openwrt on a wrt54g v4 ?
[05:48] <duab> actuallly .. version 5
[05:48] <duab> heh
[05:49] <duab> GRRRRR
[05:49] <duab> it's vxworks
[05:49] <duab> lame++
[05:50] <duab> wonder if it can be flashed back to linux ...
[05:56] <z3ro> duab: maybe, with a lot of hacking... but vxworks needs less flash space compared to linux (dedicated network kernel vs general purpose kernel) so the flash would be very limited.
[05:56] <z3ro> duab: same applies to memory.
[05:57] <duab> well, I dont even code so .. I'm S.O.L , thought maybe someone had a workaround
[05:57] <duab> I wish I could atleast peer the damn thing with my dlink somehow
[05:57] <duab> dont think it has the functionality built in
[05:58] <z3ro> duab: iirc the wrt54g v5 has 1M flash... so you're much better getting a real router. look at the netgear wgt634u (large flash and memory, usb, minipci, atheros wireless card included (ath-driver.org for fully, 100% gpl drivers))
[05:58] <duab> nice
[05:59] <z3ro> duab: oh, it runs linux 2.6, too.
[05:59] <duab> well I bought this junk running vxworks already . at walmart heh.. I live in the sticks
[06:00] <duab> neways.. maybe they'll return it and I'll get lucky
[06:01] <duab> I should have ran a search on the model number on my phone.. or researched before I left, but I never thought linksys would go back to vxworks
[06:01] <duab> kind of shocking
[06:01] <z3ro> duab: if you want to brick it, see if you can stick a wire in through the vent holes and short pins out until it won't work anymore.
[06:01] <z3ro> duab: then just take it back and say "this doesn't work, I want a refund"
[06:02] <z3ro> duab: aka: play the dumb customer. :)
[06:02] <duab> yeah.. done that many times, just dreading the actual task/drive
[06:04] <duab> you know a good router that's pre-n, huge flash, 3rd party firmware compat ?
[06:06] <duab> z3ro: oh yeah.. guys at openwrt are working on it btw
[06:06] <duab> nbd Says:
[06:06] <duab> December 12th, 2005 at 4:51 am
[06:06] <duab> The chipset is still compatible and we (at openwrt.org) are working on figuring out the image file format so that we can run Linux on this thing.
[06:06] <duab> talking about the v5
[06:07] <z3ro> duab: hmm... okay, I didn't think anyone would bother with a unit with such a small flash.
[06:07] <duab> yeah, no tools.. nothing cool really
[06:07] <duab> going to exchange/return it tomorrow
[06:08] <duab> anyone know of a table or openwrt compatible routers out there ?
[06:09] <duab> or=of openwrt compat..
[06:10] <jakllsch> http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
[06:10] <z3ro> yeah. and seattlewireless.net
[06:11] <duab> thanks
[06:12] <z3ro> duab: also, google for "xxx hacking" where xxx is the model of the router.
[06:13] <duab> z3ro: you know that table states the wrt54g verison 5 has 2m flash and 8mb ram ?
[06:13] <z3ro> duab: oh, I thought it was 1M of flash.
[06:13] <z3ro> duab: 2M is still very small.
[06:14] <duab> well.. my kernel image on my 2.8Ghz box is only 1.42MB
[06:14] Action: z3ro bbl (dinner)
[06:14] <duab> isnt that all the flash has to store ?
[06:14] <duab> that and a bootloader
[06:14] <duab> or does it even use a bootloader
[06:14] Action: duab sratches head
[06:15] <jakllsch> duab: it stores *everything*. right down to the web interface
[06:17] <duab> so the kernel and ALL of the binaries
[06:17] <duab> in one image
[06:17] <duab> yikes
[06:17] <duab> yeah 2MB is way too small
[06:20] <duab> z3ro: reccomended one with a atheros NIC, I think that works with kismet/etc doesnt it ?
[06:20] <duab> it's has more features/support than the broadcom nic's which have no docs/etc ..
[06:23] <duab> maybe a stupid question but.. with the right wireless-NIC and software, cant you turn a x86 box into a wireless router/AP ?
[06:24] <duab> I mean, why even mess with all the cheap no docs hardware.. , right NIC, some high gain ANT's... build a monster router heh
[06:24] <J4k3> we really need to rally up some support for building a custom board
[06:24] <jakllsch> duab: yes, but it costs about 10 times as much for power
[06:25] <J4k3> if we could get 5000+ sold, I think *somebody* could get it built for a reasonable price
[06:25] <J4k3> I could prolly get on the phone :P
[06:26] <J4k3> http://www.gateworks.com/avila_gw2347.htm
[06:26] <J4k3> If thats reasonably priced, I'm sure openwrt could get ported in a minute.
[06:27] <duab> it has a generic x86 port already I think
[06:27] <J4k3> thats not an x86 chip
[06:28] <duab> just skimmed it.. saw intel, my mistake
[06:29] <turtlboy> somebody mentioned netgear wgt634u a while ago...
[06:29] <turtlboy> is that fully supported?
[06:29] <J4k3> the wgt634u is not well supported
[06:29] <turtlboy> the table of hardware says it's wip
[06:29] <J4k3> it has bad issues at this point.
[06:30] <duab> I'd rather just have a x86 linux box with the right nic.. and software, would be very useful
[06:30] <turtlboy> how do clock cycles between these router cpus and x86 cpus compare?
[06:30] <duab> if it's not x86 I have no clue..
[06:30] <turtlboy> are these mips?
[06:31] <turtlboy> wrt54g et al?
[06:31] <duab> the wrt54g is mips I think..
[06:31] <turtlboy> how does 1 MHz mips compare to 1 MHz x86?
[06:31] <J4k3> duab: thats a tiny board that draws 4 watts... and is about 5x faster than a broadcom @ 200 mhz
[06:31] <J4k3> :)
[06:31] <turtlboy> similar or no?
[06:31] <J4k3> turtlboy: mips is faster at some things, not at others... the broadcom mips chip is also like... the celeron of mips chips :)
[06:31] <duab> j4k3: it can draw power of a ethernet port right ?
[06:32] <J4k3> it tis da 486SX
[06:32] <J4k3> duab: yes.
[06:32] <duab> well that makes it even cooler
[06:32] <duab> could put it in a little plastic case and deploy drones all over your wired network/campus
[06:33] <turtlboy> i've seen some soekris AMD 2XX MHz boards... was wondering the difference in cpu performance
[06:33] <turtlboy> like a broadcom mips 200 MHz vs a soekris AMD 233 MHz
[06:33] <turtlboy> if it was a huge difference or not
[06:34] <duab> those boards looked huge though
[06:34] <duab> the soekris ones I mean
[06:41] <J4k3> turtlboy: the broadcom is faster, much faster.
[06:41] <J4k3> the problem is
[06:41] <J4k3> most broadcom 200mhz boards are vlan-based, so the network handling is very inefficient
[06:43] <duab> 'vlan-based' ?
[06:43] <turtlboy> means it's like a fake switch, right?
[06:44] <jakllsch> more like fake NICs
[06:44] <duab> ewwww
[06:45] <duab> like integrated stuff on x86 mainboards ?
[06:45] <turtlboy> oh yeah
[06:45] <turtlboy> each port on the switch is like its own fake NIC
[06:46] <duab> 0_o
[06:46] <duab> eww
[06:46] <turtlboy> except, that's only if you want it to be, right?
[06:46] <turtlboy> umm
[06:46] <turtlboy> i guess the wan has to be like that
[06:47] <duab> this is so lame.. I'm sharing my connection with my neighbor .. and he cant access my router (it's apartments)
[06:47] <duab> would a stand alone (peered access point/router) have more chance of accessing my Router than just a mini-pci wlan card ?
[06:48] <duab> I'm thinking it has antennas and it's own power supply.. problem is, how do you 'peer' wireless routers, is it even possible ?
[06:48] <duab> default/stock linksys firmware has no options to do it...
[06:50] <duab> laptop ->WRT54G <----------||||WALL||---------> WRT54G, better than , LAPTOP WITH WLAN card <-----------|||WALL||--------> WRT54g
[06:51] <duab> well .. the laptop direct to my router doesnt work ... and I'm not upgrading
[06:51] <duab> so..
[06:51] <duab> out of ideas..
[06:52] <duab> is that a misconception ? that a router has a better shot of talking to another router.. I think wlan-minipci cards are weak
[06:52] <duab> they dont have an antenna
[06:53] <duab> etc
[06:53] <duab> one of you lurking experts, atleast tell me I'm a retard ..so i can give up and go to bed
[06:53] <duab> =)
[06:59] <J4k3> uh dude
[06:59] <J4k3> minipci cards have antenna connectors
[06:59] <J4k3> you attach a pigtail
[07:00] <J4k3> if you haven't been doing that, well, heh... you prolly need new cards too.
[07:02] <duab> this is integrated into my notebook
[07:03] <duab> didnt see any ant connectors ;[
[07:03] <J4k3> well
[07:04] <J4k3> http://www.wisp-router.com/images/radios/CM9.jpg
[07:04] <duab> netstumbler detects the network all over my house too
[07:04] <J4k3> ick nm
[07:04] <J4k3> its fried
[07:04] <duab> it just wont 'connect' and work.. anywhere other than in the garage
[07:05] <duab> I dont care what it takes to get it working.. I just know I
[07:05] <duab> 'm
[07:05] <duab> not paying for pre-N/MIMO ..
[07:06] <duab> need a hack , not a retail solution hehe
[07:07] <duab> he can order his own internet for cheaper than what they want for a mimo/pre-n router
[07:07] <duab> 150$.. that's like 6months of service
[07:10] <duab> ie. not worth it .. need to find a solution and publish the results
[07:11] <duab> I honestly think the entire rollout is intentional .. buy this it sucks, this is better upgrade.. capitalist pigs
[07:12] <duab> they didnt test their product and realize all the problems.. they just rolled it out blindly.. doubt it
[07:16] <J4k3> well
[07:16] <J4k3> 802.11g could have been considerably better performing
[07:17] <J4k3> but... something 'funny' happened at some point.
[07:18] <duab> yeah, they realized they could sell us the same idea.. like 3-4 times
[07:18] <duab> and every product rollout in every industry is organized with one idea in mind
[07:18] <duab> profit
[07:18] <duab> captialization
[07:19] <duab> medicine unfortunately falls into the catagory, as well as a a few other "vital' services
[07:19] <joneskoo> talking to yourself?
[07:19] <duab> where profit shouldnt be the main priority
[07:20] <duab> joneskoo: I tend to rant .. when I'm bored
[07:20] <joneskoo> I do it too somet.. often. :p
[07:21] <duab> it's 1 A.M .. j4k3 was around here and there a bit.. so not entirely myself
[07:21] Action: duab shrugs
[07:21] <joneskoo> wonder if it's bar closing time or something
[07:21] <duab> bars close at different times.. and it's monday night
[07:21] <J4k3> yeah
[07:21] <joneskoo> good point
[07:21] <duab> most people have work tomorrow
[07:21] <duab> they're just sleeping
[07:21] <joneskoo> I've been on holiday for 5 days or so, last day now
[07:22] <J4k3> 802.11g could perform 5x better if it was based on narrower channels
[07:22] <J4k3> and it wouldn't have such a crosstalk issue
[07:22] <duab> I'm a bored college student freezing my nuts off in my garage because my wlan card is junk ...
[07:22] <J4k3> would have been easy to add.. but nooooo.
[07:22] <joneskoo> I realized some 4 hours ago I won't wake up early enough tomorrow if I go to sleep. so I'm here.
[07:22] <duab> and I just wasted 50$ of like 400$ heheh.. on a junk wlan router hoping I could open openwrt on it
[07:23] <joneskoo> it's only 08:21. I'm a bit sleepy but there's not much I can do :)
[07:23] <duab> and use it as a repeater
[07:46] <turtlboy> has anybody had much success with the ar7 port?
[07:47] <gloin> hey
[07:47] <gloin> I need to setup ipsec pass-through
[07:48] <gloin> what's the trick? =]
[07:49] <jakllsch> I guess one would use protocol forwarding.
[07:54] <iurgi> I can't find anything about recovering bricked Buffalos...
[07:54] <iurgi> anyone knows how to do it?
[07:54] <iurgi> I've got a WBR2-g54
[07:57] <jakllsch> TableOfHardware says that model has serial and JTAG
[07:57] <jakllsch> see http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Buffalo/WBR2-G54
[07:57] <iurgi> mmm, didn't know that table of hw specified this kind of info
[07:57] <iurgi> good to know
[07:57] <iurgi> thanks...
[07:58] <iurgi> so ther is no way I can fastly de-brick my model now...
[08:03] <Sapote> i have two routers, i find a solution for comunicate between us for coordinate routes
[08:12] <Sapote> zombieeeeeee channel
[08:12] <Sapote> :)
[08:20] <Growly> yeah, no one talks
[08:20] <Growly> it's as if they all have something better to do
[08:21] <PolarWolf> they probably do, yes
[08:21] <Growly> bastards.
[08:22] <Growly> i need a new linux server
[08:22] <Growly> and i want a rack
[08:23] <Growly> but i have neither
[08:23] Action: Growly gives up on conversation
[08:26] <Sapote> maybe all goto sleep mode or shutdown
[08:27] <Growly> we could talk about OpenWrt if anyone wanted to?
[08:28] <Sapote> comunicate two routers with any failover or heartbeat
[08:30] <PolarWolf> Growly: I don't just start to chatter with no purpose. Not in here anyway.
[08:33] <Growly> PolarWolf: fine...
[08:51] <Sapote> hey hi hello wrt!
[09:58] <Drazak> Paco: you the one behind these posts?
[10:18] <lemmy> can i use the firmware upgrade page from the rc4 webif to flash to the linksys firmware?
[10:19] <Growly> yes
[10:26] <lemmy> for some reason vlan1 was included in lan_ifnames. this is wrong, isn't it? eth2 and vlan2 are the values on wrt54g 1.1 hw?
[10:53] <olekvi> I'm about to build a new OpenWRT-image - changes to files in package/base-files/default/etc will be part of the image, right?
[10:54] <olekvi> (yes; I know I may change this after flashing :-)
[10:55] <weeti> z3ro, i started with 2.6.0 looks better. much better :D i think it's easy then to merge the changes one version at time till 2.6.14
[11:07] <felix_> lo
[11:08] <felix_> how do i update dropbear? another note: it would be really nice if openwrt had a announce/security/errata mailinglist for these kind of alerts
[11:09] <lemmy> is www.dyndns.com down atm? can somebody verify this?
[11:09] <jice> it isn"t
[11:09] <lemmy> strange
[11:09] <felix_> see also http://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/CHANGES
[11:32] <Stereo> that should be in the topic
[11:34] <Lalufu> If I read that correctly it is a local privilege escalation. How many non-root logged in users does openwrt have?
[11:35] <Lalufu> Not that this should not be addressed. It should.
[11:35] <Lalufu> But it's no reason for panic, IMHO.
[11:36] <jice> how to make an ipkg from svn ?
[11:37] <Stereo> it isn't reason for panic at all
[11:37] <Stereo> see the "could potentially" in the changelog too
[11:38] <Kaloz> "potentially" on a "multu-user" system
[11:38] <Stereo> we all agree it's a vaguely serious problem that should be fixed soon-ish
[11:38] <Stereo> yeah
[11:38] <Stereo> .
[11:38] <Kaloz> it's fixed in svn
[11:38] <Stereo> great
[11:39] <Kaloz> imho it was fixed the day it was announced
[12:44] <malfi> Kaloz told me about Atheros SoC stuff and 2.6. Did anybody get hold on such sources?
[12:48] <jice> what do i need to build ipkg package ?
[12:48] <jice> do i need the openwrt sdk kit?
[12:56] <jice> http://wiki.openwrt.org/BuildingPackagesHowTo
[12:57] <ads> morning
[13:32] <zoo> I have got a problem with my VoIP provider. I cannot register. it seems as if i don't get packets from the provider back. I tried to tcpdump on br0, but i am not sure if the packets are dropped before. How can i enable syslogging or such of dropped packets?
[13:33] <Ralish> I am currently setting up a WPA-PSK WDS Link between two routers, and think I may have got it working, but I would like to verify this...
[13:33] <Ralish> My question is, what is the best way to obtain data on currently active WDS Links/Stats and Data on them/Encryption being used?
[13:41] <Kaloz> zoo: i would suggest to temporary clear the firewall rules, and retry, if that fixes the problem
[13:42] <zoo> Kaloz: i am using the default firewall rules.
[13:43] <zoo> and this only appears from time to time
[13:43] <Kaloz> zoo: yeah, but those are blocking new conenctions form the outside
[13:43] <Kaloz> no idea how your voip stuff works
[13:43] <zoo> maybe adding a LOG target to iptables will show me why
[13:47] <pablo_> hi, how can i put perl and lwp inside my router?
[14:09] <Ralish> uh...anybody around :P
[14:21] <nobody_su> moinn
[14:23] <jice> how to use svn under openwrt?
[14:47] <lemmy> maradns returns "Fatal error: maradns_uid is less than 10 or not a number". whats the solutions to this? i can't remeber anymore.
[14:54] <Stereo> lemmy: what's your maradns uid set to?
[14:54] <lemmy> Stereo: i tried setting the uid to the uid of nobody.
[14:55] <Stereo> try not setting it at all
[14:55] <lemmy> and run_as_root should be 1 or 0?
[14:55] <Stereo> you can't run something that binds to a <1024 port as nobody
[14:55] <Stereo> I'll check
[14:55] <Stereo> run_as_root=1
[14:56] <lemmy> strange. without maradns_uid it refuses to start with Fatal error: maradns_uid is less than 10 or not a number.
[14:57] <Stereo> odd, mine runs fine without
[14:58] <lemmy> can you post your mararc?
[14:58] <lemmy> into a private query
[14:58] <Stereo> #flood
[14:59] <Stereo> hilight me when you're there
[15:01] <lemmy> thx
[15:01] <Stereo> after that I have my zones
[15:03] <lemmy> and your ipkg version of maradns is?
[15:36] <Gauss_Z88> good morning
[15:40] <davidg> Gauss_Z88: I am trying to do something very similar on a 634U. There is a warning somewhere that when you use robocfg like this all connections get reset. If the problem that you are expecting to get your workstation's IP from DHCP, if so maybe you need to restart DHCP in your script.
[15:40] <Gauss_Z88> davidg: sure you meant me?
[15:47] <davidg> Gauss_Z88: no, sorry, I meant nitram. I am still getting used to reading these silly IRC displays!
[15:48] <davidg> nitram: I am trying to do something very similar on a 634U. There is a warning somewhere that when you use robocfg like this all connections get reset. If the problem that you are expecting to get your workstation's IP from DHCP, if so maybe you need to restart DHCP in your script.
[15:48] <Gauss_Z88> davidg: no problem.
[15:49] <davidg> On the subject of robocfg, there is talk on the WGT634U wiki page that it is being replaced. Anyone know what is replacing it?
[15:53] <nitram> davidg: ?
[15:56] <davidg> nitram: If I read this IRC log correctly, you asked a question about robocfg
[15:57] <dani4248> hello.
[15:57] <dani4248> can somebody help me?
[15:57] <dani4248> i have a linksys wrt54gs v4
[15:57] <dani4248> how can i get the flash- and ram-size without install sth. others like linksys-firmware?
[15:57] <dani4248> (i can give the linksys back)
[15:58] <lemmy> Stereo: still around? whats the version of your maradns ipkg?
[15:58] <Stereo> lemmy: not sure. old.
[15:58] <Stereo> from oldstable
[16:29] <Fuzeron> i added a script to start on startup, and now the DMZ light never turns off.
[16:31] <olli_04> this means the boot process never finishes, boot in failsafe and remove your script
[16:31] <Fuzeron> how can i start the script, but let the boot finish continue?
[16:32] <olli_04> i don't know
[16:33] <Fuzeron> ok, thanks for your help tho
[16:34] <joneskoo> Fuzeron: if the script has to stay running, fork it
[16:34] <joneskoo> Fuzeron: that is, say, if it were to spawn a program cat with no arguments (weird example), in a shell script you could write cat &
[16:35] <Fuzeron> the script just changes channels on the wireless
[16:38] <Fuzeron> ill read up on forking, hopfully thats what im looking for, thanks
[16:52] <garza> can i host a page on my wrt54g?
[16:56] <joneskoo> garza: http?
[16:57] <garza> yes
[16:57] <joneskoo> garza: sure you can, though don't expect it to handle getting slashdotted
[16:58] <garza> lol, no, it is something very simple
[16:58] <joneskoo> garza: the built-in busybox httpd can so really simple things, but there's lighttpd too if you want
[16:58] <garza> ok
[16:58] <garza> and is it on port 80?
[16:58] <joneskoo> as usual, it's up to you.
[16:59] <jice> is there a svn package in experimental?
[16:59] <garza> so after hosting a page how do i enter the web managment
[16:59] <jice> or even at stable state
[16:59] <joneskoo> garza: you could move the busybox httpd to some other port and put lighttpd to port 80 for example
[16:59] <garza> ok
[17:00] <garza> i need to have on it perl and lwp
[17:00] <garza> is that possible?
[17:00] <olli_04> garza: perl is overkill for a wrt router
[17:00] <joneskoo> LWP is quite heavy, I'm not sure.
[17:00] <joneskoo> perl is quite heavy, yeah
[17:01] <joneskoo> microperl can do simple things, but it requires some work to get some modules to work with it
[17:01] <joneskoo> microperl doesn't for example have strict.. :)
[17:01] <garza> i need to add a perl script to irssi
[17:01] <garza> and that would be great
[17:01] <mrpower> when i try to use a physdev rule in iptables.. i get "file not found" error.. How come? iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m physdev --physdev-in eth1 --dport 23 -j DROP <-- My rule
[17:02] <joneskoo> garza: you might want to consider a higher end host to run such things
[17:02] <joneskoo> garza: it won't be plug&play on a wlan router
[17:03] <joneskoo> <- me prefers this 1,3 GHz Duron for running irssi
[17:03] <garza> lol
[17:03] <joneskoo> 768MB RAM is a bit less of a contraint for perl, too ;)
[17:03] <joneskoo> thus I can run completely useless irssi scripts as well, say http://derbian.fi/~gdv/
[17:04] <joneskoo> that's live generated on this irssi
[17:04] <Gauss_Z88> recommended system spec for irssi: 2Ghz Processor, 1Gigabyte RAM, high end graphics card with at least 256MB graphic card memory, DX 9 compatible
[17:05] <StefanG> garza: if you find a way to use perl scripts with irssi tell me :)
[17:05] <joneskoo> Gauss_Z88: hah. I'd say rather: 1 GHz CPU, 64 MB RAM per user, 100M networking.. oh and a good terminal for each user
[17:06] Action: StefanG has a celeron 333 for irssi .. and it runs well :)
[17:06] <joneskoo> StefanG: as long as you keep away from bloat, sure ;)
[17:06] <joneskoo> I've seen irssi eat 2% of 233 MHz CPU. add 50 of those and it'll be bad
[17:07] <joneskoo> more of a concern is the memory usage. I think the local university has 16 GB RAM on their irssi running computer and they asked people not to use irssi because it eats so much memory
[17:08] <StefanG> what is bloat
[17:08] <StefanG> and why should i use mor than 1 irssi on a maschine?
[17:09] <joneskoo> <jargon, abuse> The result of adding new features to a program or system to the point where the benefit of the new features is outweighed by the extra resources consumed....
[17:09] <StefanG> joneskoo: i dont share a mainframe with thousands of people ;-)
[17:09] <joneskoo> StefanG: not you... but it's a bit expensive to buy a Sun Fire for each user
[17:09] <StefanG> hmmm .. sun fire sounds good :)
[17:10] <StefanG> dont know if our university has something like that
[17:10] <StefanG> the computer science department still use the same ultra-sparc maschines they already had in 99 :/
[17:11] <J4k3> the only shared shell box at any university around here is a AXP166 running OpenVMS 7.4
[17:11] <J4k3> the world's slowest alpha, running the worlds most worthless OS.
[17:11] <StefanG> ohoh :)
[17:11] <Cart_> evening
[17:11] <StefanG> SunOS erle 5.9 Generic_118558-09 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-5_10
[17:13] <Cart_> what is the situation of openwrt in WAP54g?
[17:15] <Cart_> I saw that that status is "work in progress", but....?
[18:02] <broadcaster> ping
[18:02] <WifiJane> pong
[18:05] <danny92> it seems that sbdy has found the main problem with wap54g v1 (ticket 146)
[18:05] <nbd> danny92: we know what the problem is
[18:05] <nbd> danny92: the problem is that our images are too big
[18:06] <danny92> I hope this patch will be integrated soon (I have compilation issues at the moment)
[18:06] Action: nbd checks the ticket again
[18:06] <Cart_> can I check from dmesg if my wap54g is v1 or v2?
[18:07] <nbd> ah, sorry. i was confusing your ticket with another ticket
[18:07] <nbd> i will integrate the patch soon
[18:07] <danny92> so long i already tried to add an uart but...
[18:07] <danny92> I'm not very goos at electronic
[18:07] <danny92> -s+d
[18:08] <danny92> cool thx nbd
[18:08] <broadcaster> can somebody tell me how o disable /dev/gpio? which modules creates that device?
[18:09] <nbd> broadcaster: the kernel creates it
[18:09] <nbd> broadcaster: why do you want to disable it?
[18:09] <broadcaster> nbd: so userspace programmes cannot interfere with i2c
[18:09] <nbd> you'd need to recompile the kernel...
[18:10] <broadcaster> nbd: i am working on the i2c-bus, remember? recompiling the kernel is not a problem. i just don't know which driver to disable.
[18:10] <broadcaster> maybe i will write a separate LED-driver module, which uses mmio and does not interfere with other gpio lines
[18:11] <nbd> broadcaster: arch/mips/bcm947xx/gpio.c, iirc
[18:11] <broadcaster> as an addition to the i2c-mips-gpio-driver, which, btw. has been improved again, but i have not send a patch yet
[18:11] <broadcaster> ah, good
[18:13] <matteo> nbd: what's wrong with actual ifup scripts?
[18:13] <nbd> matteo: you tell me ...
[18:13] <nbd> :)
[18:13] <z3ro> weeti: ping
[18:13] <matteo> you told me that will not apply teh ipv6 patch due to some changes you have to do to the scripts
[18:14] <nbd> ah you mean that...
[18:14] <Cart_> my wap54g tells me: CPU: BCM4712 rev 1 at 200 MHz, is it v1 or v2?
[18:14] <nbd> well, currently parts of the network config are spread over different parts of /etc
[18:14] <nbd> i want to change that and make the whole system simpler
[18:16] <nbd> Cart_: sounds more like v2 to me
[18:16] <Cart_> how can I be sure?
[18:17] <nbd> Cart_: or v3 (i don't know the difference)
[18:17] <Cart_> v3??
[18:17] <nbd> Cart_: v1 is 125 MHz
[18:17] <nbd> i read somewhere that there's a v3
[18:17] <nbd> but i don't know anything about it
[18:17] <Cart_> uh.. this version stuff is confusing me
[18:17] <nbd> look on the bottom of the unit
[18:17] <digg> a v3 what?
[18:18] <digg> whats the make and model?
[18:18] <nbd> see if there's a version number somewhere
[18:18] <digg> Linksys wrt54g?
[18:18] <nbd> wap54g
[18:18] <Cart_> Linksys WAP54G
[18:18] <digg> hmmm
[18:18] <Cart_> yep.. there was a small v2 text
[18:18] <Cart_> so it is v2
[18:19] <Cart_> so I can forget openwrt for a while?
[18:19] <nbd> we're working on creating images that work out of the box
[18:21] <Cart_> ok.. I'll check situation after 1 month or so?
[18:24] <spectra-> nbd: hi.. i've got a small suggestion for the webif.. a reboot button. the sshd on my roof ap died, but it's still running. wish i could reboot it from here..
[18:24] <digg> is rc4 safe?
[18:25] Action: nbd considers it safe
[18:25] <digg> yay
[18:25] <nbd> spectra-: already on my todo list :)
[18:25] <spectra-> okay, nice :)
[18:25] Action: digg throws a beer over to nbd
[18:26] <digg> hmmm
[18:26] <digg> it now has web admin?
[18:26] <spectra-> yeah, basic
[18:26] <spectra-> but pretty functional
[18:27] <digg> yoy
[18:28] <digg> all that is needed is basic
[18:28] <digg> bbiab
[18:28] <digg> updating
[18:38] Action: digg is happy even
[18:41] <matteo> nbd: can't you apply teh ipv6 patch now since it is only 3 lines?
[18:41] <matteo> i'm using it since about 2 weeks
[18:41] <matteo> no problems
[18:44] Action: nbd doesn't have time
[18:55] <freezer> wrt: no!
[18:56] <harazoncu> :dito:
[18:57] Action: harazoncu herkese güle güle de
[19:14] <lemmy> where can i find qos-scripts_0.3_all?
[19:16] <lemmy> ah, found it.
[19:39] <mikea> Kaloz: are you there?
[19:53] <moonwatcher> any one here?
[19:55] <jakllsch> .
[19:55] <jakllsch> ENOTZEPHYR
[19:56] <moonwatcher> i guess xmas is not the time to find ppl here
[20:36] <justdave> is there any openwrt-specific documentation on using tc anywhere?
[20:36] <justdave> using the upstream tc documentation, all the examples just provide "RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument" for everything
[20:56] <Twister> hey all, just wanted to let ppl know of a problem im having. I have a Moto WR850G running RC4, It flashed fine, the only issue I seen was the wireless light didnt work, this was friday, I even unplugged and restarted the router to make sure all was ok, and it worked like a charm, well, now its tuesday, i just got back in the office, over the weekend someone was screwin around and the router got unplugged..now it seems to be bricked, no wireless broadcast,
[21:02] <mikea> Do you have a serial console?
[21:02] <Twister> no
[21:02] <Twister> ill probably hae to go in and do it manually
[21:03] <Twister> like as described on the site
[21:04] <Twister> i have a usb>rj45 adapter if that would work heehe
[21:05] <Growly|Work> what are the units of rssi?
[21:07] <Twister> lol
[21:08] <Thombo> I flashed OpenWrt RC4 on my WRT54GS v1.1 everything works fine, but i'm having trouble with my wifi-clients, the wifi clients get an ip-adress, but that's all.... I even can't ping my router or other devices in my lan...
[21:09] <Thombo> What i did to try solving the Problem: erased nvram vars -> no success -> flashed linksys firmware, resettet router, flashed RC4 -> no success (when the linksys FW was installed i had no trouble with the wifi clients)
[21:11] <Twister> naa
[21:11] <Thombo> any ideas why my wifi-clients get ip-adresses (ip-range is correct), but no connection is possible ?
[21:11] <Twister> i had this issue
[21:11] <Twister> well partly
[21:11] <Twister> cept mine wasnt even getting addresses
[21:11] <Twister> just a sec let me get you the address of the page on the wiki
[21:13] <Twister> http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Configuration
[21:13] <Twister> theres the papge
[21:13] <Twister> basically the commands you need to do is
[21:14] <Twister> nvram set wl0_mode=ap <--wL0 not w10
[21:14] <Twister> nvram set wl0_ssid=nameofrouter
[21:14] <Twister> nvram set wl0_infra=1
[21:15] <Twister> nvram set wl0_closed=0 <--unless you dont want it to broadcast the ssid then its 1
[21:15] <Twister> nvram set wl0_channel=11 <--if you use a diffrent channel for some reason put it instead of 11
[21:16] <Twister> then do nvram commit
[21:16] <Twister> and reboot
[21:16] <Twister> you should then get the broadcast
[21:16] <Growly|Work> which command line utilities provide information on signal strength (noise, rssi, snr)
[21:16] <Twister> that page also tells you how to set WEP and WPA encryption and password auth
[21:16] <Growly|Work> ?
[21:17] <Thombo> thats my config :) -> I can see the Access-Point, i can connect to my access-Point, my wifi-clients get ip-adresses (from the router via wlan) but i can't ping my router or any other devices in my network
[21:18] <Twister> Thombo, lets see if its an dhcp problem, try setting one of your clients statically
[21:18] <Thombo> i also tried: no encryption, wep64, wep128, wpa-psk -> same effect
[21:18] <Bjoern_Kaiser> Growly: iwlist?
[21:18] <Thombo> i also set static ip-adresses -> same effect
[21:18] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: sort out this problem first before you use encryption
[21:19] <Twister> Growly|Work: i think its iwconfig eth1 scanning (its iw something)
[21:20] <Twister> that will list all AP it picks up and tell you the sig strengh and noise
[21:20] <Thombo> encryption is off, i thought maybe its a securiry feature -> no security, no wifi-clients :) so i tried WEP an WPA. But when i notoced that this is not an security-feature is switched encprytion off
[21:20] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: have you changed anything in your firewall?
[21:20] <Thombo> no, i left the firewall untouched
[21:21] <Twister> im sorry
[21:21] <Twister> its iwlist eth1 scanning
[21:21] <Twister> that was for Growly|Work
[21:22] <Twister> Thombo: try setting the ip on one of your clients to like 192.168.10.2 with the gateway being 10.1 and if that dont work instead of 10 try 1 or 2
[21:22] <Teemu> hey, may I somehow make log from connect tries to my openwrt
[21:23] <Thombo> Twister: I set the gateway to the ip-adress of my router
[21:24] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: gateway is not relevant if you are trying to ping a device on the same subnet
[21:24] <Thombo> my router has 192.168.6.253, so i set my client to ip:192.168.6.1 smask:255.255.255.0 gateway:192.168.6.253 dns:192.168.6.253.
[21:25] <Thombo> sure, gateway is only used when accessing an other net
[21:26] <Thombo> my PC (connected via cable) has exactly the same adresses (expect ip: 192.168.6.6 for sure :) when i enable dhcp on my "cable-pc" i get an ip-adress an everything also works fine.
[21:28] Action: gr8w11ne thinks Thombo may have destroyed his bridge
[21:29] <Thombo> hmmmm..... how can i fix my bridge? In S45firewall ?
[21:30] <Thombo> is it possible the DHCP works on the WLAN-interface if the bridge is broken ?
[21:31] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: the scripts should build the bridge as along as you have the correct nvram names and settings
[21:32] <Thombo> gr8w11ne: iptables -A FORWARD -i br0 -o br0 -j ACCEPT -> you mean this ?
[21:33] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: can you pastebin your output from the ifconfig command?
[21:33] <Thombo> ifconfig br0 = br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:10:1F:B6:DE
[21:33] <Thombo> inet addr:192.168.6.253 Bcast:192.168.6.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
[21:33] <Thombo> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[21:33] <Thombo> RX packets:358013 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[21:33] <Thombo> TX packets:230682 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[21:33] <Thombo> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[21:33] <Thombo> RX bytes:79991128 (76.2 MiB) TX bytes:62551361 (59.6 MiB)
[21:35] <Thombo> i thinks the output looks good....
[21:35] <gr8w11ne> hmm appears to fine
[21:38] <Thombo> i think i't could not be a hardware error, because with linksys firmware it works...
[21:42] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: if you are obtaining DHCP then the base level is working
[21:43] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: you can check your firewall with the iptables -L -nvx command against my firewall rules for a RC3 on a GS1.0 at http://pastebin.com/472188
[21:43] <gr8w11ne> brb
[21:46] <GGiveMMe> I've got a server 2003 acting as a dhcp server. It is hooked up to the vlan0 and working fine. Eth1 or wifi is enabled and configured on my wrt54g with WEP enabled and my laptop can see the access point but never gets a dhcp lease. Can anyone help m with this problem?
[21:50] <Thombo> Big thanks to you, gr8w11ne, but i don't think its the firewall
[21:50] <jumpkick> seems my forum account is slow in sending confirmation....
[21:51] <jumpkick> ah well, I've put some stuff I extracted from my RTP300 into http://www.northern.ca/projects/open-rtp/
[21:51] <jumpkick> an extract of the 1.0.55 file system and the contents of all the files in proc
[21:54] <GGiveMMe> any ideas on the dhcp stuff guys?
[21:54] <GGiveMMe> or gals
[21:58] <mikea> GGiveMMe: what happens when you leave wep turned off?
[22:01] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: my only other suggestion is to boot into failsafe and run firstboot
[22:03] <GGiveMMe> same
[22:03] <GGiveMMe> no dhcp lease
[22:28] <lucaferr> What's my best bet for routing ospf? quagga?
[22:29] <Prest> I have just used jtag to flash cfe.nin to my router and then tried to ping it
[22:29] <Prest> it pinged OK but never timed out which I think is not correct
[22:30] <Prest> I then tftp'ed the firmware and it said it had succeeded but the router still does not work
[22:30] <Prest> anyone any ideas
[22:31] <Prest> am I right in thinking the wrt54g only needs the cfe.bin file and the kernal
[22:32] <freezer> when will rc5 be released?
[22:32] <lemmy> 26.12 according to trac
[22:33] <freezer> mh and what would be the biggest changes?
[22:34] <lemmy> have a look for yourself on dev.openwrt.org
[22:43] <justdave> anyone have any experience using tc on openwrt? using the upstream tc documentation, all the examples just provide "RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument" for everything
[22:44] <gr8w11ne> Prest: can you boot into failsafe?
[22:45] <Prest> well I'm trying to load the linksys firmware
[22:45] <Prest> at the moment
[22:45] <Prest> using windows
[22:45] <zinx> erh
[22:46] <zinx> why were you messing with the CFE?
[22:46] <gr8w11ne> Prest: that is theraputic - why the linksys firmware?
[22:46] <Prest> in desperation I'm jtaging the kernal into it now,, it will take a while
[22:46] <zinx> and what did you do to break it in the first place?
[22:46] <Prest> well the others didn't work
[22:47] <Prest> so i thought I'de go back to basics with a small old version
[22:47] <BadKnees> Is the some kinda of scanner available for openwrt which can show me the radio sinners. Which ssid's are occupiing which channel and things like that
[22:48] <gr8w11ne> BadKnees: kismet_drone
[22:48] <Prest> I broke it when I downloaded dd-wrt to it
[22:48] <BadKnees> kismet_drone,hmm thanks
[22:50] <gr8w11ne> Prest: dd-wrt would not have hosed your CFE
[22:50] <Prest> after I boke the router and tried unsuccessfully to recover it I erased the whole of the flash with jtag
[22:50] <Prest> yes i understand that
[22:50] <Prest> but after trying to get the thing working and failed I decided to have a clean start
[22:51] <Prest> and erased the whole lot
[22:51] <Prest> now i have put the CFE.bin file back again
[22:51] <gr8w11ne> Prest: and you were able to recover using your CFE backup
[22:52] <Prest> and tftp'ed the kernal but still it is not working
[22:52] <Prest> the kernal said it had successfullt compleated
[22:52] <Prest> well i download a new cfe
[22:52] <Prest> off the web
[22:53] <Prest> from here
[22:53] <Prest> http://lonewolf.hacker-nin.com/wrt/cfe/cfe.php?model=g11&use=g11
[22:54] <Prest> do you know what the difference is between cfe.bin and pmon.bin
[22:54] <edouard> is there a module i have to insmod before ipt-ttl to have the --ttl-set option for iptables ?
[22:55] <gr8w11ne> Prest: different bootloaders - pmon was the original one
[22:55] <Prest> do they do different things
[22:55] <edouard> i have insmoded ipt-ttl but still I get an error with this command: iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i vlan1 -j TTL --ttl-inc 1
[22:56] <edouard> it tells me that --ttl-inc is not a valid option (same thing for --ttl-set)
[22:56] <edouard> i suppose another module have to be loaded for ipt-ttl to work
[22:56] <gr8w11ne> Prest: what version of WRT54G do you have?
[22:56] <Prest> 1.1
[23:00] <crashev> edouard: insmod ipt_TTL?
[23:00] <gr8w11ne> Prest: iirc v1.0 uses PMON v2.0 uses CFE - not sure what 1.1 uses
[23:00] <crashev> ttl is for -m ttl
[23:00] <crashev> targets are uppercase always
[23:01] <edouard> crashev : i tried that, but it is not enougth
[23:01] <BadKnees> client, drone og server, hmm
[23:01] <edouard> crashev : so I suppose i need to load something else
[23:02] <edouard> crashev : but i dont know what, i have loaded all the ipt_* modules
[23:02] <edouard> crashev : any idea ?
[23:02] <gr8w11ne> BadKnees: drone collects the data - server processes it - client displays it
[23:02] <Prest> I have a friend who has a similar unit I will borrow it tomorrow and download the cfe.bin from it
[23:03] <crashev> edouard: check ls /usr/lib/iptables/*TTL* do you have TTL mod there for iptables?
[23:03] <crashev> if not then you also need to recompile iptables
[23:03] <BadKnees> gr8w11ne, thanks
[23:04] <crashev> or just compile it with TTL and copy it to router /usr/lib/iptables/
[23:04] <edouard> crashev : no I dont have that,
[23:05] <crashev> I do have ;]
[23:05] <crashev> # ls /usr/lib/iptables/*TTL*
[23:05] <crashev> /usr/lib/iptables/libipt_TTL.so
[23:05] <crashev> so You need to recompile iptables properly
[23:05] <edouard> crashev : I have installed openwrt from the image, does it mean that i have to get the sdk from the website ?
[23:05] <crashev> hmm
[23:06] <crashev> what version?
[23:06] <crashev> I suppose RC4 has ipt_TTL...
[23:06] <edouard> crashev : I have the RC4
[23:07] <BadKnees> i remember something about --noheader somewhere. Is there a nvram variable so that i can tftp trx file instead of all these silly header files
[23:07] <edouard> and i am not to familiar with compiling for openwrt
[23:08] <edouard> i have installed the ipt-ttl package, why would iptable need to be recompiled ?
[23:09] <edouard> maybe a reboot will do the trick
[23:10] <olli_04> edourd: in white russian rc4 there is no ipt-ttl package
[23:10] <olli_04> edouard
[23:10] <edouard> olli_04 : well, i just installed from the web interface !
[23:11] <edouard> root@OpenWrt:~# insmod ipt_ttl
[23:11] <edouard> Using /lib/modules/2.4.30/ipt_ttl.o
[23:11] <edouard> there it is
[23:11] <olli_04> edouard: execute busybox and show me the line with the date in it
[23:12] <edouard> BusyBox v1.00 (2005.11.23-21:46+0000) multi-call binary
[23:12] <olli_04> edouard: i don't know than
[23:13] <edouard> olli_04 : this is strange, the ipt_ttl module is loaded, but it cannot use --ttl-* !
[23:13] <edouard> olli_04 : and my "provider" sets ttl to one
[23:14] <edouard> olli_04 : do I need to compile a fresh version of openwrt to get that module ?
[23:15] <olli_04> edouard: i don't know than
[23:15] <olli_04> i never used ttl in iptables
[23:15] <edouard> olli_04 : i think it is just a problem of having the rigth module
[23:16] <BadKnees> edouard, do you have /usr/lib/libipt_TTL.so
[23:16] <Prest> am I right in thinking that the wholeflash consists of the cfe.bin the kernal and nvram?
[23:17] <jakllsch> Prest: and the filesystem
[23:17] <Prest> and that nvram will be made on the next boot by the cfe and kernal
[23:17] <edouard> no, but i have /lib/modules/2.4.30/ipt_ttl.o
[23:18] <BadKnees> you need both
[23:18] <Prest> do I have to load the filesystem in manually
[23:18] <edouard> BadKnees : where do I get the missing part ?
[23:18] <BadKnees> ipkg iptables-extra or something
[23:18] <BadKnees> i thing
[23:18] <BadKnees> i think
[23:18] <jakllsch> Prest: depends alot on your version of CFE. no, the filesystem is part of the openwrt image
[23:19] <Prest> so it is part of the kernal
[23:20] <edouard> BadKnees : thanks, I will install that, but i have to unplug to give the connexion to the router
[23:21] <a1es> i installed Development branch (codename Kamikaze) on WL-HDD and is real kamikadze ! no ports open anymore !
[23:22] <olli_04> a1es: from https://dev.openwrt.org/wiki --> "Please never use any selfcompiled image of Kamikaze, if you have no access to serial console. The chance to brick your router with the development version is very high (f.e. 2.6 brcm support is very experimental)."
[23:22] <wigyori> lol
[23:23] <BadKnees> The hammer logo looks like topenwrt
[23:23] <a1es> olli_04: hm, going to solder serial console ...
[23:24] <a1es> or maybe try whiterussian ...
[23:26] <gr8w11ne> Prest: what you end up with is four partitions CFE Linux NVRAM JFFs2. iirc the CFE/firmware should create an nvram partition where none exist. OpenWrt will create the jffs2 partition
[23:29] <gr8w11ne> Prest: try tftp an openwrt image, boot into failsafe, flush your arp cache and connect to 192.168.1.1
[23:30] <Prest> gr8w11ne I will try that tomorrow its getting a bit late now,,, I don't know much about linux thats why i have not done a lot with open wrt
[23:31] <Prest> can i call you tomorrow? are you on skype or msn
[23:33] <gr8w11ne> Prest: if I am at my desk I will respond on this channel - see if you can find out which bootloader is used for v1.1
[23:34] <Prest> yes I will know in the morning when I get the other router here
[23:34] <Prest> gr8w11ne where in the world are you?
[23:34] <Prest> gr8w11ne so I know your time
[23:34] <Prest> gr8w11ne I'm in the UK
[23:35] <Wonka> Prest: you client seems to be funny somehow... 'Y´BUgr8w11neU'
[23:35] <Wonka> narf
[23:35] <Prest> wonka I don't understand you
[23:35] <Wonka> Prest: it puts some funny stuff around nicks, looks like this: 'Ugr8w11neU'
[23:36] <Prest> I don't know why that is
[23:36] <Prest> is it still there?
[23:37] <Wonka> it's only there when you address someone...
[23:37] <Prest> it might be invision doing it
[23:37] <Prest> I won't use it to address people from now on
[23:37] <Wonka> 'k
[23:38] <gr8w11ne> Prest: New Zealand its morning here
[23:38] <Prest> it might be trying to use codes to change colours
[23:39] <Wonka> which is evil
[23:39] <gr8w11ne> Prest: but other people may be able to help you so just ask
[23:39] <Wonka> "normal" irc users just prefix their message with the nick of the target person, a colon and a space
[23:39] <Prest> <gr8w11ne> can I give you a call in my morning which will be your evening
[23:40] <Prest> OK I'll try tomorrow
[23:40] <gr8w11ne> Prest: sometimes I am on in the evening
[23:40] <Prest> OK thanks for your help it is appreciated
[23:41] <Prest> goodnight
[23:42] <gr8w11ne> Prest: one more thing - read the wiki about OpenWrt failsafe
[23:43] <Prest> OK will do,,
[23:44] <warjeep> anyone know where i can find aircrack 2.41
[23:44] Action: gr8w11ne found that linksysinfo.org refer to failsafe as the CFE state after you have jumped the pins which can be confusing
[23:44] <Prest> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Security/aircrack-7158.shtml
[23:44] <gr8w11ne> Prest: nite
[23:45] <Prest> nite nite
[23:46] <a1es> olli_04: do you know what the exact procedure to reset wl-hdd ?
[23:46] <olli_04> a1es: no
[23:47] <a1es> hold 5 sec reset button, disconnect power, hold for ages, then power led blinks, and then tftp ? anybody ?
[23:47] <Kaloz> does anyone have here a bcm4704 based router with serial console? :p
[23:47] <warjeep> thanks prest
[23:48] <cableroy> alrs: i think you need to power it up again, to make it light hehe
[23:49] <a1es> i found recepies only for asus WL-500G and WL-300G.
[23:53] <cableroy> alrs: witch one are you looking for?
[23:53] <a1es> cableroy: WL-HDD 2.5
[23:55] <a1es> cableroy: you should type nick correctly, then it gets nice color :P
[23:56] <pyrom> Hmm
[23:56] <pyrom> my wl500g deluxe works nice as a usb- cups printer server
[23:57] <pyrom> can i somehow add bluetooth support, so that i can print from my pda and my cell phone?
[23:57] <pyrom> e.g insert a bluetooth dongle, and somehow get it working with cups?
[23:57] <pyrom> install bluez stack?
[00:00] --- Wed Dec 21 2005
[00:17] <matteo> weeti: how goes the 2.6 stuff?
[00:20] <gr8w11ne> Drazak: http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Configuration 3.5 &3.6
[00:26] <XShocK> does anybody know the cheapest router with linux? i don't need Wifi, just barebone ethernet. 100 mbit
[00:27] <J4k3> XShocK: fastest method (and most power consumption) is find a 486-or-better PC in a dumpster, add a couple ethernet cards.
[00:28] <J4k3> swolf: it'll run openwrt, but the wireless won't be supported
[00:28] <XShocK> J4k3, i need a very small device. i already use Dual 450mhz, 512mb "under-the-table-device" :)
[00:28] <J4k3> you can put another (supported) adapter in the minipci slot though
[00:28] <XShocK> i need a replacement.
[00:28] <mbishop> or find someone to give you a sparcstation20....really, they'll probably beg you to take it
[00:28] <J4k3> I've given up on begging people to take my sparc1 ;)
[00:29] <J4k3> all 20 mhz of it.
[00:29] <XShocK> lol
[00:30] <swolf> J4k3: I'm afraid that's not possible.. is there any other firmware you know of supporting the x2? (including wifi :D)
[00:32] <SkyNetIsHere_com> yo J4k3...
[00:32] <J4k3> yo
[00:33] <swolf> btw: is there any difference between the wrt54gx2 and the wap54gx2? google spit out a forum-entry that had an entry about firmware upgrades for the wap54gx2 linked to a linksys-firmware download for the wrt54gx2
[00:36] <Dabian> What is the default password?
[00:36] <Dabian> (SSH)
[00:37] <gr8w11ne> Dabian: password is whatever you set it to :)
[00:37] <Dabian> ahh .. thats right
[00:37] <Dabian> Thanks .. I guess that means I locked myself out (again).
[00:37] <Dabian> Or was there a way with holding the reset button?
[00:38] <olli_04> Dabian: RTFM
[00:38] <Dabian> (The website doesn't seem to load right now .. besides, I just want to upgrade dropbear)
[00:38] <Dabian> Oh . there it was ... just slow.
[00:38] <gr8w11ne> Dabian: be careful with that reset button
[00:39] <Dabian> gr8w11ne : How so?
[00:39] <Dabian> Has the meaning changed since expirimental?
[00:40] <Hecktjui> Kaloz around?
[00:40] <gr8w11ne> Dabian: because you can clear your nvram settings if used incorrectly
[00:40] <Dabian> Ouch
[00:41] <Dabian> that *would* be bad..
[00:41] <Dabian> gr8w11ne : I have an asus, deluxe model. I just want to crack (change) the password. Which way is better?
[00:44] <Dabian> (Doesn't seem to be covered by the FAQ, for some odd reason - forgetting ones password is the most common error your users make when you're sysadmin - well, apart from space in the login name, wrong case and stuff like that).
[00:45] <Dabian> The reason I want to upgrade dropbear, is because of the exploid that will soon be in the wild . . .
[00:45] <joneskoo> Dabian: as discussed earlier, it won't be a problem
[00:46] <joneskoo> Dabian: I heard it only matters if you have normal user access already
[00:46] <Dabian> joneskoo : Oh .. so OpenWrt is not vounable?
[00:46] <joneskoo> Dabian: it is, in a way, but it doesn't matter with one-user systems
[00:46] <mbishop> it's a local exploit
[00:47] <Dabian> joneskoo : I understand .. you need access to gain access. :-)
[00:47] <joneskoo> Dabian: and if root is the only user, it won't help at all.
[00:47] <joneskoo> this seems to be a hot topic, popping up on the channel quite often
[00:47] <Dabian> I guess its the ole OpenBSD hole ... priviledge drop ..
[00:48] <Dabian> joneskoo : I just got a security mail about it. So I thought .. oh no .. I have to fiddle with my router again. :/
[00:48] <joneskoo> Dabian: heh. I think it's reasonably safe to wait until rc5
[00:48] <Dabian> Should have read the mail, I guess. :-)
[00:50] <Dabian> Package : dropbear
[00:50] <Dabian> Vulnerability : buffer overflow
[00:50] <Dabian> Problem type : local (remote)
[00:51] <Dabian> joneskoo, gr8w11ne : Thanks for the help!
[00:51] <Dabian> Now I can sleep. :-)
[00:52] <reiffert> and the exploit was a buffer overflow when parsing over 1024 chars?
[00:52] <Kamel> i have this question that's digging into me, and it's driving insane. i've been through multiple pages of wiki, forum, and google searches, so forgive me if sound desperate lol
[00:53] <reiffert> there is only one wiki, the openwrt wiki :))
[00:53] <Kamel> i need QoS to work on openwrt, but i need it to make absolute sure that someone playing an online game will not lag while using bit torrent
[00:53] <Weedy> qos is still being developed
[00:53] <Kamel> i think maybe that needs downstream qos?
[00:53] <danderson> forget any possibilities of absolute when negociating QoS
[00:53] <danderson> for starters
[00:53] <Kamel> but i don't know :'(
[00:53] <reiffert> Kamel: stop bittorrent while playing. save time and brain and works.
[00:53] <Weedy> Kamel, more likly upstream qos
[00:54] <Weedy> it's very had to max out your dl with only bt
[00:54] <joneskoo> Weedy: no it's not
[00:54] <Weedy> I have 5mbits down
[00:54] <Weedy> yes it is
[00:54] <joneskoo> Weedy: I have 10M half.
[00:55] <joneskoo> (half duplex I mean)
[00:55] <Kamel> danderson: i understand that i wont get any absolute results, but as long as it atleast somewhat works it will be enough
[00:57] <Nichotin> Weedy: umm, what kind of trackers are you on? I max my two 10Mbits in no time. Even both ways
[00:57] <joneskoo> Kamel: bittorrent is quite difficult for QoS, because it has so many connections. don't expect to get too great results on some slowish ADSL
[00:58] <joneskoo> actually, ADSLs are all slowish upstream so s/slowish //;
[00:58] <Weedy> Nichotin, well the stuff I want isnt normaly in well seeded torrents are I only have 100kb/s upload
[00:58] <Kamel> well, the bit torrent client that's used can limit the upload, so that's not too big of a deal
[00:58] <Weedy> so maxing all 700kb/s download with that much upload is hard
[00:59] <danderson> upload limiting doesn't limit the number of incoming/outgoing connections
[00:59] <danderson> they're the ones that will be hurting your connection
[00:59] <joneskoo> Kamel: it may still get awful bursts that fill the conenction for say 400 ms at a time
[00:59] <joneskoo> Kamel: and that's quite nasty for gaming
[00:59] Action: nbd doesn't get that kind of bursts with his qos scripts
[00:59] <nbd> (and ed2k+torrent on 128kbit/s upload)
[01:00] <Kamel> well, the game is an mmorpg, so lag isn't a huge factor
[01:00] <Kamel> but with bit torrent maxing out the bandwidth, it does lag to the point where they get disconnected
[01:00] <joneskoo> luckily I don't have ADSL any more. 10M symmetric is sooo much nicer, no need for QoS.
[01:01] <joneskoo> the only slowness comes from 10M half duplex getting collisions, not some buffer in ADSL modem
[01:01] <jakllsch> joneskoo: what is this LRE?
[01:01] <joneskoo> jakllsch: yes.
[01:01] <joneskoo> jakllsch: I'd use 100M half but this Cisco stuff gets unstable then :(
[01:02] <joneskoo> jakllsch: it kills PPPoE pretty much if there's say 15 second downtime
[01:02] <joneskoo> I know, PPPoE is devil's invention, but can't help it.
[01:04] <joneskoo> actually.. by any chance, are the some Cisco experts on this channel? I heard a rumour there's a trick to get Cisco LRE to work stable at better speeds than 10M half duplex
[01:04] <usual> Hi, I am new to the project. I am curious, is openwrt a light debian install on a linksys router?
[01:04] <joneskoo> and it's a known bug it has issues at 100M half duplex
[01:05] <z3ro> usual: it's a custom distro. it has nothing to do with debian.
[01:05] <joneskoo> I'd really like to have 100M half or so link to Cisco 575 LRE, because then I'd get 1.25 MiB/s down and up (10400 kbit/s measured actual speed after tcp and ethernet overheads)
[01:05] <z3ro> usual: openwrt is based on uclibc's buildroot.
[01:06] <usual> z3ro, ok, I thought I saw somewhere it said something about debian. I am going over what appear to be the few replacement firmwares out there and openwrt came up
[01:07] <joneskoo> usual: openwrt might feel a bit like debian or openbsd in some aspects. it gives you the power to do pretty much what you want
[01:07] <usual> joneskoo, ok...all cli?
[01:08] <joneskoo> usual: there's some web admin in rc4
[01:08] <joneskoo> usual: I prefer ssh interface though
[01:08] <z3ro> usual: but, if you don't know gnu/linux *FORGET* about openwrt.
[01:08] <joneskoo> web interfaces remind me of a certain manufacturer that starts with d-lin*
[01:09] <joneskoo> and not in a good way
[01:09] <usual> ahhh...does it work on the new GL router
[01:09] <joneskoo> though rc4's web interface is pretty neat
[01:09] <z3ro> usual: wiki.openwrt.org
[01:09] <z3ro> usual: or wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
[01:11] <usual> thank you guys
[01:11] <joneskoo> I'm so happy I bought two of these WRT54GS
[01:11] <joneskoo> they're so great
[01:11] <joneskoo> 8M flash is roomy and 32 MB RAM rocks.
[01:12] <joneskoo> 14 MB memory in use
[01:12] <wbx> joneskoo: what are you doing with so much RAM and FLASH?
[01:12] <joneskoo> wbx: I said it's roomy :)
[01:12] <joneskoo> 2,4 MB flash free
[01:12] <joneskoo> lighttpd ate a lot of space :)
[01:12] <joneskoo> and microperl some
[01:16] <joneskoo> sorry, I misread. I have 3,4 MB flash free now, after just installing tcpdump as well
[01:17] <olli_04> lol, someone added a 3com router with 1mb flash to the tableofhardware
[01:17] <joneskoo> ouch
[01:17] <joneskoo> that's like... I'd feel claustrophobic
[01:18] <joneskoo> wtf, a buffalo has 64 MB RAM :)
[01:18] <olli_04> tof shows now lots of "End of edit conflict"
[01:19] <joneskoo> soekris with 128M, but that's another story. they're quite expensive
[01:27] <rop> Hey there
[01:27] <wbx> rop: what happened to your php web frontend for openwrt?
[01:27] <rop> Ofcourse everyone here knows about the dropbear hole already. I was not reading much news lately, so I just found out.
[01:28] <rop> wbx: I'm still working. www.what-a-mesh.net.
[01:28] <wbx> i think the dropbear hole is only critical for systems with user accounts.
[01:28] <rop> wbx: ignode the dummy texts, go for download.what-a-mesh.net
[01:28] <rop> like 'root' ?
[01:29] <rop> Ah, I see.
[01:29] <rop> 'Authenticated users' can run code as root.
[01:29] <rop> duh
[01:29] <denon> "Dropbear server versions prior to 0.47 have a buffer sizing error that may allow authenticated users to run code as the server user (usually root). "
[01:29] <rop> I was not reading straight.
[01:29] <denon> so, no more running your shell server on a linksys wrt :)
[01:29] <rop> 'tis what you get at 01:30 sometimes.
[01:30] <wbx> rop: but i will update the package soon, because it solves the client problems, too
[01:30] <rop> I'll kick off the 250 users from my shell-box then
[01:30] <rop> give it a rest
[01:31] <denon> hehe
[01:31] <rop> I'm looking forward to the CCC Congress.
[01:31] <denon> yeah, 250 users with like a few meg of ram
[01:31] <wbx> oh, i see kaloz already updated to 0.47...
[01:31] <wbx> rop: are you doing network organization this year?
[01:31] <rop> Well, yes and no.
[01:32] <rop> Yes, I am, formally. No: eerything is rnning smoothly so far, and my job is only really imporatnt if it doesn't
[01:32] <rop> So I guess I'll be sitting at the NOC-helpdesk mostly
[01:34] <rop> impressive 10 GBps stuff, at least partly working wireless, network from all outlets.... :)
[01:34] Action: webmind looking forward to your talk actually.. curious :)
[01:35] <rop> yeah, me too. Frank and I will need to get our act together RSN
[01:35] <rop> :)
[01:35] <denon> rop: what event is this?
[01:35] <rop> CCC congress
[01:36] <rop> 27-30 dec, Berlin, Germany
[01:36] <rop> www.ccc.de
[01:36] <webmind> http://events.ccc.de/congress/2005/
[01:36] <denon> ah .. lil far to travel for me
[01:36] <webmind> :)
[01:36] <rop> Went to my first CCC Congress in 1988. I'm getting old.
[01:36] <webmind> ouch
[01:36] <webmind> mine in 2001 :)
[01:36] <denon> course, if you have 10Gbps traveling over airwaves, I'd rather not be anywhere near!
[01:36] <denon> </kidding> :)
[01:37] <webmind> awell.. its late.. gnite
[01:37] <rop> The 10GBps is doing fibers for now. Soon though... Sooner than you think...
[01:37] Action: rop is off to bed too
[01:38] <rop> Later all
[01:38] <wbx> bye rop
[01:38] Action: wbx is flashing his last image for today
[01:38] <rop> (And excuse my panicmongering before reading entire news-article)
[01:39] <rop> (aaargh, these channel-logs are on the web. People will read this stuff long after I have become president... :)
[01:39] <wbx> lol
[01:39] <rop> There goes my bid for world-domination
[01:40] <rop> Guess I'll have to do the rock-star thing now. Second best, but mroe girls... :)
[01:40] <rop> more
[01:40] <rop> anyway, sleep well.
[01:41] <wbx> 2.4.32 boots on netgear. nice. n8
[01:50] <Trou> has anyone ever mexxed with CFE that includes LZMA ?
[01:50] <Trou> messed
[01:52] <zinx> a CFE that does?
[01:54] <Trou> i got a CFE that loads a compressed kernel
[01:54] <Trou> and this kernel is LZMA compressed*
[01:54] <Trou> well there are 2 stages in CFE even
[01:55] <Trou> basic loader unpacks 2nd stage which is LZMA compressed
[01:55] <Trou> and the 2nd stage then unpacks the LZMA'd kernel
[01:55] <Trou> and I do not manage to unpack the LZMA stream
[01:58] <Hecktjui> is it a problem compiling with gcc-4.0 ??
[02:01] <Hecktjui> I see a Ticket in dev, GCC4 support assigned... What ggc should I use
[02:01] <Hecktjui> gcc even
[02:04] <Trou> Hecktjui use any 3.x
[02:04] <Trou> 3.4 for example
[02:04] <Hecktjui> Trou: ok thanks
[02:05] <moonwatcher> hello?
[02:05] <moonwatcher> anyone here?
[02:06] <moonwatcher> or are you all out chopping trees?
[02:09] <moonwatcher> i guess so
[02:17] <cplusplus> what do you think about Linksys Wireless-G Broadband Router with SRX ?
[02:33] <Growly|Work> hellooo
[02:36] <cplusplus> ;-)
[02:41] <cplusplus> n8
[03:28] <turtlboy> i don't know a lot about radio, and was wondering if a highly directional antenna (~18 dBi) aimed at an unmodified access point will increase only transmit ability? or does the directionality work for both transmitting and receiving?
[03:28] <J4k3> turtlboy: works both ways
[03:28] <turtlboy> just as well both ways? or does it favor one direction?
[03:28] <J4k3> turtlboy: with a 24dbi antenna and a clear view, you can hit a 'basic stock ap' sitting in a window 7 miles away.
[03:28] <J4k3> with LOS of course.
[03:28] <J4k3> just as well both ways
[03:29] <turtlboy> cool, that's what i thought, but wasn't sure
[03:29] <J4k3> what makes the antenna have gain when transmitting is the exact same things that give it gain receiving
[03:30] <turtlboy> so, with 24dbi, 7 miles with 'stock' on the other side? is that an exaggeration?
[03:30] <turtlboy> that's very far
[03:30] <J4k3> well, the AP is in a window sitting on the 2nd story of a house sitting on a 40 ft hill, and the test was done 100 ft up a 150 ft tower 7 miles away
[03:31] <J4k3> with nothing but creek valley in between
[03:31] <J4k3> mostly ranches, few trees.
[03:31] <turtlboy> oh, this is a real-world scenario?
[03:31] <J4k3> yes, I've done it
[03:31] <J4k3> client card was a senao 200mW prism2 11b pcmcia
[03:32] <turtlboy> wow
[03:43] <turtlboy> what's the default power output of a wrt54g?
[03:44] <J4k3> 50mW-ish
[03:44] <turtlboy> that's pretty weak, then.
[03:45] <turtlboy> and i hear that the receive sensitivity is kinda crappy too
[03:46] <J4k3> yes
[03:46] <J4k3> its not very well designed from an RF standpoint
[03:48] <turtlboy> i wonder what kind of LOS range i could get with a wrt54g with a 18 dbi antenna
[03:48] <turtlboy> 1/2 mile?
[03:49] <J4k3> 2-3 miles
[03:49] <J4k3> you get much farther than that you start having ack timing issues.
[03:49] <Eagle_Fire> can those issues be overcome?
[03:49] <turtlboy> what causes timing issues?
[03:49] <turtlboy> doesn't the radio signal go at speed of light
[03:49] <Eagle_Fire> speed of light isn't fast enough :)
[03:50] <Eagle_Fire> .11b/g was designed to work over small distances
[03:50] <Eagle_Fire> so it expects an ACK in short order
[03:50] <Eagle_Fire> otherwise it thinks the packet got dropped
[03:51] <turtlboy> what about these people setting records at 50 miles with giant dishes?
[03:51] <turtlboy> what causes ack timing problems with one setup vs. another?
[03:52] <J4k3> distance between stations... and different radios handle the timing different
[03:53] <J4k3> broadcom's drivers have the timing fixed inside... no way to 'hack' it
[03:54] <turtlboy> with your 7 mile link, did you have to change anything on the senao?
[04:07] <turtlboy> exit
[04:07] <turtlboy> ...
[04:27] <[mbm]> .
[04:31] <Kamel> .
[04:31] <[mbm]> ..
[04:31] <Kamel> ...
[04:31] <[mbm]> .
[04:32] <Kamel> ..
[04:33] <joneskoo> &
[04:40] <J4k3> ..!..
[04:43] <[mbm]> http://downloads.openwrt.org/people/mbm/useless_trivia_faq
[04:48] <pablo> how are you?
[04:48] <pablo> can irssi and screen run on wrt54g?
[04:49] <pablo> wow
[04:49] <bri3d> Yes yes they can
[04:49] <pablo> does openwrt has perl and lwp?
[04:50] <bri3d> It can
[04:50] <bri3d> well perl
[04:50] <jakllsch> microperl; yes. but that's not enough to run cowsay :(
[04:50] <bri3d> and lwp for that matter
[04:50] <bri3d> lol
[04:50] <bri3d> You can put full perl on it if you attach USB storage
[04:50] <bri3d> it doesn't run very well thoug
[04:50] <bri3d> *though
[04:51] <pablo> ok, which wrt54g version will you recmmend me?
[04:51] <pablo> 2, 2.2 3 or 4?
[04:51] <Hecktjui> YES, compiled and installed kamikaze on a WRT.... So far so good
[04:52] <pablo> can i run an eggdrop on my wrt54g?
[04:55] <HolyB> ...
[04:55] <hd420> pablo: why would you want to do that?
[04:56] <pablo> just experimenting
[04:56] <gr8w11ne> pablo: depends which version you can get
[04:56] <pablo> and why not?
[04:56] <pablo> which is the best version?
[04:57] <pablo> on which version is it possible to do that?
[04:58] <hd420> I have a Vonage-branded wrtp54g, if I install openwrt on this device, will it work properly with vonage? If not, is it easy to undo the installation
[04:58] <hd420> ?
[05:00] <gr8w11ne> hd420: did you look in the tableofhardware in the wiki? What sort of chipset does it have?
[05:01] <gr8w11ne> hd420: ??
[05:01] <hd420> gr8w11ne: I've looked at the hardware table and have no idea what sort of chipset it has
[05:02] Action: gr8w11ne is codifying his multiple "?" language to rival the "." language
[05:03] <hd420> very good, gr8w11ne
[05:06] <gr8w11ne> hd420: and did you read the WIP link?
[05:07] <hd420> I see it now... this doesn't look like it's going to work for me, maybe in a few months
[05:08] <pablo> which is the best? linksys wrt54g 2, 2.2 3 or 4?
[05:09] <Stereo> 4
[05:09] <Stereo> not 5 in any case
[05:09] <pablo> no, i know
[05:09] <gr8w11ne> pablo: probably version 4 because it doesn't require a stability fix - but I only own a GS
[05:09] <pablo> in 4 will i be able to put an eggdrop?
[05:15] <kRutOn> I noticed v4 at Best Buy today for $39
[05:15] <Growly|Work> oooooooo wl 3.9...
[05:27] <J4k3> 3 is the best.
[05:27] <J4k3> for overall support.
[05:37] <Hecktjui> night all
[05:43] <duab> hey
[05:44] <duab> is there a way to 'peer' two wireless routers ?
[05:44] <duab> so that they can talk to each other ?
[05:46] <duab> more specific and ontopic question, can you install openwrt on a wrt54g v4 ?
[05:48] <duab> actuallly .. version 5
[05:48] <duab> heh
[05:49] <duab> GRRRRR
[05:49] <duab> it's vxworks
[05:49] <duab> lame++
[05:50] <duab> wonder if it can be flashed back to linux ...
[05:56] <z3ro> duab: maybe, with a lot of hacking... but vxworks needs less flash space compared to linux (dedicated network kernel vs general purpose kernel) so the flash would be very limited.
[05:56] <z3ro> duab: same applies to memory.
[05:57] <duab> well, I dont even code so .. I'm S.O.L , thought maybe someone had a workaround
[05:57] <duab> I wish I could atleast peer the damn thing with my dlink somehow
[05:57] <duab> dont think it has the functionality built in
[05:58] <z3ro> duab: iirc the wrt54g v5 has 1M flash... so you're much better getting a real router. look at the netgear wgt634u (large flash and memory, usb, minipci, atheros wireless card included (ath-driver.org for fully, 100% gpl drivers))
[05:58] <duab> nice
[05:59] <z3ro> duab: oh, it runs linux 2.6, too.
[05:59] <duab> well I bought this junk running vxworks already . at walmart heh.. I live in the sticks
[06:00] <duab> neways.. maybe they'll return it and I'll get lucky
[06:01] <duab> I should have ran a search on the model number on my phone.. or researched before I left, but I never thought linksys would go back to vxworks
[06:01] <duab> kind of shocking
[06:01] <z3ro> duab: if you want to brick it, see if you can stick a wire in through the vent holes and short pins out until it won't work anymore.
[06:01] <z3ro> duab: then just take it back and say "this doesn't work, I want a refund"
[06:02] <z3ro> duab: aka: play the dumb customer. :)
[06:02] <duab> yeah.. done that many times, just dreading the actual task/drive
[06:04] <duab> you know a good router that's pre-n, huge flash, 3rd party firmware compat ?
[06:06] <duab> z3ro: oh yeah.. guys at openwrt are working on it btw
[06:06] <duab> nbd Says:
[06:06] <duab> December 12th, 2005 at 4:51 am
[06:06] <duab> The chipset is still compatible and we (at openwrt.org) are working on figuring out the image file format so that we can run Linux on this thing.
[06:06] <duab> talking about the v5
[06:07] <z3ro> duab: hmm... okay, I didn't think anyone would bother with a unit with such a small flash.
[06:07] <duab> yeah, no tools.. nothing cool really
[06:07] <duab> going to exchange/return it tomorrow
[06:08] <duab> anyone know of a table or openwrt compatible routers out there ?
[06:09] <duab> or=of openwrt compat..
[06:10] <jakllsch> http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
[06:10] <z3ro> yeah. and seattlewireless.net
[06:11] <duab> thanks
[06:12] <z3ro> duab: also, google for "xxx hacking" where xxx is the model of the router.
[06:13] <duab> z3ro: you know that table states the wrt54g verison 5 has 2m flash and 8mb ram ?
[06:13] <z3ro> duab: oh, I thought it was 1M of flash.
[06:13] <z3ro> duab: 2M is still very small.
[06:14] <duab> well.. my kernel image on my 2.8Ghz box is only 1.42MB
[06:14] Action: z3ro bbl (dinner)
[06:14] <duab> isnt that all the flash has to store ?
[06:14] <duab> that and a bootloader
[06:14] <duab> or does it even use a bootloader
[06:14] Action: duab sratches head
[06:15] <jakllsch> duab: it stores *everything*. right down to the web interface
[06:17] <duab> so the kernel and ALL of the binaries
[06:17] <duab> in one image
[06:17] <duab> yikes
[06:17] <duab> yeah 2MB is way too small
[06:20] <duab> z3ro: reccomended one with a atheros NIC, I think that works with kismet/etc doesnt it ?
[06:20] <duab> it's has more features/support than the broadcom nic's which have no docs/etc ..
[06:23] <duab> maybe a stupid question but.. with the right wireless-NIC and software, cant you turn a x86 box into a wireless router/AP ?
[06:24] <duab> I mean, why even mess with all the cheap no docs hardware.. , right NIC, some high gain ANT's... build a monster router heh
[06:24] <J4k3> we really need to rally up some support for building a custom board
[06:24] <jakllsch> duab: yes, but it costs about 10 times as much for power
[06:25] <J4k3> if we could get 5000+ sold, I think *somebody* could get it built for a reasonable price
[06:25] <J4k3> I could prolly get on the phone :P
[06:26] <J4k3> http://www.gateworks.com/avila_gw2347.htm
[06:26] <J4k3> If thats reasonably priced, I'm sure openwrt could get ported in a minute.
[06:27] <duab> it has a generic x86 port already I think
[06:27] <J4k3> thats not an x86 chip
[06:28] <duab> just skimmed it.. saw intel, my mistake
[06:29] <turtlboy> somebody mentioned netgear wgt634u a while ago...
[06:29] <turtlboy> is that fully supported?
[06:29] <J4k3> the wgt634u is not well supported
[06:29] <turtlboy> the table of hardware says it's wip
[06:29] <J4k3> it has bad issues at this point.
[06:30] <duab> I'd rather just have a x86 linux box with the right nic.. and software, would be very useful
[06:30] <turtlboy> how do clock cycles between these router cpus and x86 cpus compare?
[06:30] <duab> if it's not x86 I have no clue..
[06:30] <turtlboy> are these mips?
[06:31] <turtlboy> wrt54g et al?
[06:31] <duab> the wrt54g is mips I think..
[06:31] <turtlboy> how does 1 MHz mips compare to 1 MHz x86?
[06:31] <J4k3> duab: thats a tiny board that draws 4 watts... and is about 5x faster than a broadcom @ 200 mhz
[06:31] <J4k3> :)
[06:31] <turtlboy> similar or no?
[06:31] <J4k3> turtlboy: mips is faster at some things, not at others... the broadcom mips chip is also like... the celeron of mips chips :)
[06:31] <duab> j4k3: it can draw power of a ethernet port right ?
[06:32] <J4k3> it tis da 486SX
[06:32] <J4k3> duab: yes.
[06:32] <duab> well that makes it even cooler
[06:32] <duab> could put it in a little plastic case and deploy drones all over your wired network/campus
[06:33] <turtlboy> i've seen some soekris AMD 2XX MHz boards... was wondering the difference in cpu performance
[06:33] <turtlboy> like a broadcom mips 200 MHz vs a soekris AMD 233 MHz
[06:33] <turtlboy> if it was a huge difference or not
[06:34] <duab> those boards looked huge though
[06:34] <duab> the soekris ones I mean
[06:41] <J4k3> turtlboy: the broadcom is faster, much faster.
[06:41] <J4k3> the problem is
[06:41] <J4k3> most broadcom 200mhz boards are vlan-based, so the network handling is very inefficient
[06:43] <duab> 'vlan-based' ?
[06:43] <turtlboy> means it's like a fake switch, right?
[06:44] <jakllsch> more like fake NICs
[06:44] <duab> ewwww
[06:45] <duab> like integrated stuff on x86 mainboards ?
[06:45] <turtlboy> oh yeah
[06:45] <turtlboy> each port on the switch is like its own fake NIC
[06:46] <duab> 0_o
[06:46] <duab> eww
[06:46] <turtlboy> except, that's only if you want it to be, right?
[06:46] <turtlboy> umm
[06:46] <turtlboy> i guess the wan has to be like that
[06:47] <duab> this is so lame.. I'm sharing my connection with my neighbor .. and he cant access my router (it's apartments)
[06:47] <duab> would a stand alone (peered access point/router) have more chance of accessing my Router than just a mini-pci wlan card ?
[06:48] <duab> I'm thinking it has antennas and it's own power supply.. problem is, how do you 'peer' wireless routers, is it even possible ?
[06:48] <duab> default/stock linksys firmware has no options to do it...
[06:50] <duab> laptop ->WRT54G <----------||||WALL||---------> WRT54G, better than , LAPTOP WITH WLAN card <-----------|||WALL||--------> WRT54g
[06:51] <duab> well .. the laptop direct to my router doesnt work ... and I'm not upgrading
[06:51] <duab> so..
[06:51] <duab> out of ideas..
[06:52] <duab> is that a misconception ? that a router has a better shot of talking to another router.. I think wlan-minipci cards are weak
[06:52] <duab> they dont have an antenna
[06:53] <duab> etc
[06:53] <duab> one of you lurking experts, atleast tell me I'm a retard ..so i can give up and go to bed
[06:53] <duab> =)
[06:59] <J4k3> uh dude
[06:59] <J4k3> minipci cards have antenna connectors
[06:59] <J4k3> you attach a pigtail
[07:00] <J4k3> if you haven't been doing that, well, heh... you prolly need new cards too.
[07:02] <duab> this is integrated into my notebook
[07:03] <duab> didnt see any ant connectors ;[
[07:03] <J4k3> well
[07:04] <J4k3> http://www.wisp-router.com/images/radios/CM9.jpg
[07:04] <duab> netstumbler detects the network all over my house too
[07:04] <J4k3> ick nm
[07:04] <J4k3> its fried
[07:04] <duab> it just wont 'connect' and work.. anywhere other than in the garage
[07:05] <duab> I dont care what it takes to get it working.. I just know I
[07:05] <duab> 'm
[07:05] <duab> not paying for pre-N/MIMO ..
[07:06] <duab> need a hack , not a retail solution hehe
[07:07] <duab> he can order his own internet for cheaper than what they want for a mimo/pre-n router
[07:07] <duab> 150$.. that's like 6months of service
[07:10] <duab> ie. not worth it .. need to find a solution and publish the results
[07:11] <duab> I honestly think the entire rollout is intentional .. buy this it sucks, this is better upgrade.. capitalist pigs
[07:12] <duab> they didnt test their product and realize all the problems.. they just rolled it out blindly.. doubt it
[07:16] <J4k3> well
[07:16] <J4k3> 802.11g could have been considerably better performing
[07:17] <J4k3> but... something 'funny' happened at some point.
[07:18] <duab> yeah, they realized they could sell us the same idea.. like 3-4 times
[07:18] <duab> and every product rollout in every industry is organized with one idea in mind
[07:18] <duab> profit
[07:18] <duab> captialization
[07:19] <duab> medicine unfortunately falls into the catagory, as well as a a few other "vital' services
[07:19] <joneskoo> talking to yourself?
[07:19] <duab> where profit shouldnt be the main priority
[07:20] <duab> joneskoo: I tend to rant .. when I'm bored
[07:20] <joneskoo> I do it too somet.. often. :p
[07:21] <duab> it's 1 A.M .. j4k3 was around here and there a bit.. so not entirely myself
[07:21] Action: duab shrugs
[07:21] <joneskoo> wonder if it's bar closing time or something
[07:21] <duab> bars close at different times.. and it's monday night
[07:21] <J4k3> yeah
[07:21] <joneskoo> good point
[07:21] <duab> most people have work tomorrow
[07:21] <duab> they're just sleeping
[07:21] <joneskoo> I've been on holiday for 5 days or so, last day now
[07:22] <J4k3> 802.11g could perform 5x better if it was based on narrower channels
[07:22] <J4k3> and it wouldn't have such a crosstalk issue
[07:22] <duab> I'm a bored college student freezing my nuts off in my garage because my wlan card is junk ...
[07:22] <J4k3> would have been easy to add.. but nooooo.
[07:22] <joneskoo> I realized some 4 hours ago I won't wake up early enough tomorrow if I go to sleep. so I'm here.
[07:22] <duab> and I just wasted 50$ of like 400$ heheh.. on a junk wlan router hoping I could open openwrt on it
[07:23] <joneskoo> it's only 08:21. I'm a bit sleepy but there's not much I can do :)
[07:23] <duab> and use it as a repeater
[07:46] <turtlboy> has anybody had much success with the ar7 port?
[07:47] <gloin> hey
[07:47] <gloin> I need to setup ipsec pass-through
[07:48] <gloin> what's the trick? =]
[07:49] <jakllsch> I guess one would use protocol forwarding.
[07:54] <iurgi> I can't find anything about recovering bricked Buffalos...
[07:54] <iurgi> anyone knows how to do it?
[07:54] <iurgi> I've got a WBR2-g54
[07:57] <jakllsch> TableOfHardware says that model has serial and JTAG
[07:57] <jakllsch> see http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Buffalo/WBR2-G54
[07:57] <iurgi> mmm, didn't know that table of hw specified this kind of info
[07:57] <iurgi> good to know
[07:57] <iurgi> thanks...
[07:58] <iurgi> so ther is no way I can fastly de-brick my model now...
[08:03] <Sapote> i have two routers, i find a solution for comunicate between us for coordinate routes
[08:12] <Sapote> zombieeeeeee channel
[08:12] <Sapote> :)
[08:20] <Growly> yeah, no one talks
[08:20] <Growly> it's as if they all have something better to do
[08:21] <PolarWolf> they probably do, yes
[08:21] <Growly> bastards.
[08:22] <Growly> i need a new linux server
[08:22] <Growly> and i want a rack
[08:23] <Growly> but i have neither
[08:23] Action: Growly gives up on conversation
[08:26] <Sapote> maybe all goto sleep mode or shutdown
[08:27] <Growly> we could talk about OpenWrt if anyone wanted to?
[08:28] <Sapote> comunicate two routers with any failover or heartbeat
[08:30] <PolarWolf> Growly: I don't just start to chatter with no purpose. Not in here anyway.
[08:33] <Growly> PolarWolf: fine...
[08:51] <Sapote> hey hi hello wrt!
[09:58] <Drazak> Paco: you the one behind these posts?
[10:18] <lemmy> can i use the firmware upgrade page from the rc4 webif to flash to the linksys firmware?
[10:19] <Growly> yes
[10:26] <lemmy> for some reason vlan1 was included in lan_ifnames. this is wrong, isn't it? eth2 and vlan2 are the values on wrt54g 1.1 hw?
[10:53] <olekvi> I'm about to build a new OpenWRT-image - changes to files in package/base-files/default/etc will be part of the image, right?
[10:54] <olekvi> (yes; I know I may change this after flashing :-)
[10:55] <weeti> z3ro, i started with 2.6.0 looks better. much better :D i think it's easy then to merge the changes one version at time till 2.6.14
[11:07] <felix_> lo
[11:08] <felix_> how do i update dropbear? another note: it would be really nice if openwrt had a announce/security/errata mailinglist for these kind of alerts
[11:09] <lemmy> is www.dyndns.com down atm? can somebody verify this?
[11:09] <jice> it isn"t
[11:09] <lemmy> strange
[11:09] <felix_> see also http://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/CHANGES
[11:32] <Stereo> that should be in the topic
[11:34] <Lalufu> If I read that correctly it is a local privilege escalation. How many non-root logged in users does openwrt have?
[11:35] <Lalufu> Not that this should not be addressed. It should.
[11:35] <Lalufu> But it's no reason for panic, IMHO.
[11:36] <jice> how to make an ipkg from svn ?
[11:37] <Stereo> it isn't reason for panic at all
[11:37] <Stereo> see the "could potentially" in the changelog too
[11:38] <Kaloz> "potentially" on a "multu-user" system
[11:38] <Stereo> we all agree it's a vaguely serious problem that should be fixed soon-ish
[11:38] <Stereo> yeah
[11:38] <Stereo> .
[11:38] <Kaloz> it's fixed in svn
[11:38] <Stereo> great
[11:39] <Kaloz> imho it was fixed the day it was announced
[12:44] <malfi> Kaloz told me about Atheros SoC stuff and 2.6. Did anybody get hold on such sources?
[12:48] <jice> what do i need to build ipkg package ?
[12:48] <jice> do i need the openwrt sdk kit?
[12:56] <jice> http://wiki.openwrt.org/BuildingPackagesHowTo
[12:57] <ads> morning
[13:32] <zoo> I have got a problem with my VoIP provider. I cannot register. it seems as if i don't get packets from the provider back. I tried to tcpdump on br0, but i am not sure if the packets are dropped before. How can i enable syslogging or such of dropped packets?
[13:33] <Ralish> I am currently setting up a WPA-PSK WDS Link between two routers, and think I may have got it working, but I would like to verify this...
[13:33] <Ralish> My question is, what is the best way to obtain data on currently active WDS Links/Stats and Data on them/Encryption being used?
[13:41] <Kaloz> zoo: i would suggest to temporary clear the firewall rules, and retry, if that fixes the problem
[13:42] <zoo> Kaloz: i am using the default firewall rules.
[13:43] <zoo> and this only appears from time to time
[13:43] <Kaloz> zoo: yeah, but those are blocking new conenctions form the outside
[13:43] <Kaloz> no idea how your voip stuff works
[13:43] <zoo> maybe adding a LOG target to iptables will show me why
[13:47] <pablo_> hi, how can i put perl and lwp inside my router?
[14:09] <Ralish> uh...anybody around :P
[14:21] <nobody_su> moinn
[14:23] <jice> how to use svn under openwrt?
[14:47] <lemmy> maradns returns "Fatal error: maradns_uid is less than 10 or not a number". whats the solutions to this? i can't remeber anymore.
[14:54] <Stereo> lemmy: what's your maradns uid set to?
[14:54] <lemmy> Stereo: i tried setting the uid to the uid of nobody.
[14:55] <Stereo> try not setting it at all
[14:55] <lemmy> and run_as_root should be 1 or 0?
[14:55] <Stereo> you can't run something that binds to a <1024 port as nobody
[14:55] <Stereo> I'll check
[14:55] <Stereo> run_as_root=1
[14:56] <lemmy> strange. without maradns_uid it refuses to start with Fatal error: maradns_uid is less than 10 or not a number.
[14:57] <Stereo> odd, mine runs fine without
[14:58] <lemmy> can you post your mararc?
[14:58] <lemmy> into a private query
[14:58] <Stereo> #flood
[14:59] <Stereo> hilight me when you're there
[15:01] <lemmy> thx
[15:01] <Stereo> after that I have my zones
[15:03] <lemmy> and your ipkg version of maradns is?
[15:36] <Gauss_Z88> good morning
[15:40] <davidg> Gauss_Z88: I am trying to do something very similar on a 634U. There is a warning somewhere that when you use robocfg like this all connections get reset. If the problem that you are expecting to get your workstation's IP from DHCP, if so maybe you need to restart DHCP in your script.
[15:40] <Gauss_Z88> davidg: sure you meant me?
[15:47] <davidg> Gauss_Z88: no, sorry, I meant nitram. I am still getting used to reading these silly IRC displays!
[15:48] <davidg> nitram: I am trying to do something very similar on a 634U. There is a warning somewhere that when you use robocfg like this all connections get reset. If the problem that you are expecting to get your workstation's IP from DHCP, if so maybe you need to restart DHCP in your script.
[15:48] <Gauss_Z88> davidg: no problem.
[15:49] <davidg> On the subject of robocfg, there is talk on the WGT634U wiki page that it is being replaced. Anyone know what is replacing it?
[15:53] <nitram> davidg: ?
[15:56] <davidg> nitram: If I read this IRC log correctly, you asked a question about robocfg
[15:57] <dani4248> hello.
[15:57] <dani4248> can somebody help me?
[15:57] <dani4248> i have a linksys wrt54gs v4
[15:57] <dani4248> how can i get the flash- and ram-size without install sth. others like linksys-firmware?
[15:57] <dani4248> (i can give the linksys back)
[15:58] <lemmy> Stereo: still around? whats the version of your maradns ipkg?
[15:58] <Stereo> lemmy: not sure. old.
[15:58] <Stereo> from oldstable
[16:29] <Fuzeron> i added a script to start on startup, and now the DMZ light never turns off.
[16:31] <olli_04> this means the boot process never finishes, boot in failsafe and remove your script
[16:31] <Fuzeron> how can i start the script, but let the boot finish continue?
[16:32] <olli_04> i don't know
[16:33] <Fuzeron> ok, thanks for your help tho
[16:34] <joneskoo> Fuzeron: if the script has to stay running, fork it
[16:34] <joneskoo> Fuzeron: that is, say, if it were to spawn a program cat with no arguments (weird example), in a shell script you could write cat &
[16:35] <Fuzeron> the script just changes channels on the wireless
[16:38] <Fuzeron> ill read up on forking, hopfully thats what im looking for, thanks
[16:52] <garza> can i host a page on my wrt54g?
[16:56] <joneskoo> garza: http?
[16:57] <garza> yes
[16:57] <joneskoo> garza: sure you can, though don't expect it to handle getting slashdotted
[16:58] <garza> lol, no, it is something very simple
[16:58] <joneskoo> garza: the built-in busybox httpd can so really simple things, but there's lighttpd too if you want
[16:58] <garza> ok
[16:58] <garza> and is it on port 80?
[16:58] <joneskoo> as usual, it's up to you.
[16:59] <jice> is there a svn package in experimental?
[16:59] <garza> so after hosting a page how do i enter the web managment
[16:59] <jice> or even at stable state
[16:59] <joneskoo> garza: you could move the busybox httpd to some other port and put lighttpd to port 80 for example
[16:59] <garza> ok
[17:00] <garza> i need to have on it perl and lwp
[17:00] <garza> is that possible?
[17:00] <olli_04> garza: perl is overkill for a wrt router
[17:00] <joneskoo> LWP is quite heavy, I'm not sure.
[17:00] <joneskoo> perl is quite heavy, yeah
[17:01] <joneskoo> microperl can do simple things, but it requires some work to get some modules to work with it
[17:01] <joneskoo> microperl doesn't for example have strict.. :)
[17:01] <garza> i need to add a perl script to irssi
[17:01] <garza> and that would be great
[17:01] <mrpower> when i try to use a physdev rule in iptables.. i get "file not found" error.. How come? iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m physdev --physdev-in eth1 --dport 23 -j DROP <-- My rule
[17:02] <joneskoo> garza: you might want to consider a higher end host to run such things
[17:02] <joneskoo> garza: it won't be plug&play on a wlan router
[17:03] <joneskoo> <- me prefers this 1,3 GHz Duron for running irssi
[17:03] <garza> lol
[17:03] <joneskoo> 768MB RAM is a bit less of a contraint for perl, too ;)
[17:03] <joneskoo> thus I can run completely useless irssi scripts as well, say http://derbian.fi/~gdv/
[17:04] <joneskoo> that's live generated on this irssi
[17:04] <Gauss_Z88> recommended system spec for irssi: 2Ghz Processor, 1Gigabyte RAM, high end graphics card with at least 256MB graphic card memory, DX 9 compatible
[17:05] <StefanG> garza: if you find a way to use perl scripts with irssi tell me :)
[17:05] <joneskoo> Gauss_Z88: hah. I'd say rather: 1 GHz CPU, 64 MB RAM per user, 100M networking.. oh and a good terminal for each user
[17:06] Action: StefanG has a celeron 333 for irssi .. and it runs well :)
[17:06] <joneskoo> StefanG: as long as you keep away from bloat, sure ;)
[17:06] <joneskoo> I've seen irssi eat 2% of 233 MHz CPU. add 50 of those and it'll be bad
[17:07] <joneskoo> more of a concern is the memory usage. I think the local university has 16 GB RAM on their irssi running computer and they asked people not to use irssi because it eats so much memory
[17:08] <StefanG> what is bloat
[17:08] <StefanG> and why should i use mor than 1 irssi on a maschine?
[17:09] <joneskoo> <jargon, abuse> The result of adding new features to a program or system to the point where the benefit of the new features is outweighed by the extra resources consumed....
[17:09] <StefanG> joneskoo: i dont share a mainframe with thousands of people ;-)
[17:09] <joneskoo> StefanG: not you... but it's a bit expensive to buy a Sun Fire for each user
[17:09] <StefanG> hmmm .. sun fire sounds good :)
[17:10] <StefanG> dont know if our university has something like that
[17:10] <StefanG> the computer science department still use the same ultra-sparc maschines they already had in 99 :/
[17:11] <J4k3> the only shared shell box at any university around here is a AXP166 running OpenVMS 7.4
[17:11] <J4k3> the world's slowest alpha, running the worlds most worthless OS.
[17:11] <StefanG> ohoh :)
[17:11] <Cart_> evening
[17:11] <StefanG> SunOS erle 5.9 Generic_118558-09 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-5_10
[17:13] <Cart_> what is the situation of openwrt in WAP54g?
[17:15] <Cart_> I saw that that status is "work in progress", but....?
[18:02] <broadcaster> ping
[18:02] <WifiJane> pong
[18:05] <danny92> it seems that sbdy has found the main problem with wap54g v1 (ticket 146)
[18:05] <nbd> danny92: we know what the problem is
[18:05] <nbd> danny92: the problem is that our images are too big
[18:06] <danny92> I hope this patch will be integrated soon (I have compilation issues at the moment)
[18:06] Action: nbd checks the ticket again
[18:06] <Cart_> can I check from dmesg if my wap54g is v1 or v2?
[18:07] <nbd> ah, sorry. i was confusing your ticket with another ticket
[18:07] <nbd> i will integrate the patch soon
[18:07] <danny92> so long i already tried to add an uart but...
[18:07] <danny92> I'm not very goos at electronic
[18:07] <danny92> -s+d
[18:08] <danny92> cool thx nbd
[18:08] <broadcaster> can somebody tell me how o disable /dev/gpio? which modules creates that device?
[18:09] <nbd> broadcaster: the kernel creates it
[18:09] <nbd> broadcaster: why do you want to disable it?
[18:09] <broadcaster> nbd: so userspace programmes cannot interfere with i2c
[18:09] <nbd> you'd need to recompile the kernel...
[18:10] <broadcaster> nbd: i am working on the i2c-bus, remember? recompiling the kernel is not a problem. i just don't know which driver to disable.
[18:10] <broadcaster> maybe i will write a separate LED-driver module, which uses mmio and does not interfere with other gpio lines
[18:11] <nbd> broadcaster: arch/mips/bcm947xx/gpio.c, iirc
[18:11] <broadcaster> as an addition to the i2c-mips-gpio-driver, which, btw. has been improved again, but i have not send a patch yet
[18:11] <broadcaster> ah, good
[18:13] <matteo> nbd: what's wrong with actual ifup scripts?
[18:13] <nbd> matteo: you tell me ...
[18:13] <nbd> :)
[18:13] <z3ro> weeti: ping
[18:13] <matteo> you told me that will not apply teh ipv6 patch due to some changes you have to do to the scripts
[18:14] <nbd> ah you mean that...
[18:14] <Cart_> my wap54g tells me: CPU: BCM4712 rev 1 at 200 MHz, is it v1 or v2?
[18:14] <nbd> well, currently parts of the network config are spread over different parts of /etc
[18:14] <nbd> i want to change that and make the whole system simpler
[18:16] <nbd> Cart_: sounds more like v2 to me
[18:16] <Cart_> how can I be sure?
[18:17] <nbd> Cart_: or v3 (i don't know the difference)
[18:17] <Cart_> v3??
[18:17] <nbd> Cart_: v1 is 125 MHz
[18:17] <nbd> i read somewhere that there's a v3
[18:17] <nbd> but i don't know anything about it
[18:17] <Cart_> uh.. this version stuff is confusing me
[18:17] <nbd> look on the bottom of the unit
[18:17] <digg> a v3 what?
[18:18] <digg> whats the make and model?
[18:18] <nbd> see if there's a version number somewhere
[18:18] <digg> Linksys wrt54g?
[18:18] <nbd> wap54g
[18:18] <Cart_> Linksys WAP54G
[18:18] <digg> hmmm
[18:18] <Cart_> yep.. there was a small v2 text
[18:18] <Cart_> so it is v2
[18:19] <Cart_> so I can forget openwrt for a while?
[18:19] <nbd> we're working on creating images that work out of the box
[18:21] <Cart_> ok.. I'll check situation after 1 month or so?
[18:24] <spectra-> nbd: hi.. i've got a small suggestion for the webif.. a reboot button. the sshd on my roof ap died, but it's still running. wish i could reboot it from here..
[18:24] <digg> is rc4 safe?
[18:25] Action: nbd considers it safe
[18:25] <digg> yay
[18:25] <nbd> spectra-: already on my todo list :)
[18:25] <spectra-> okay, nice :)
[18:25] Action: digg throws a beer over to nbd
[18:26] <digg> hmmm
[18:26] <digg> it now has web admin?
[18:26] <spectra-> yeah, basic
[18:26] <spectra-> but pretty functional
[18:27] <digg> yoy
[18:28] <digg> all that is needed is basic
[18:28] <digg> bbiab
[18:28] <digg> updating
[18:38] Action: digg is happy even
[18:41] <matteo> nbd: can't you apply teh ipv6 patch now since it is only 3 lines?
[18:41] <matteo> i'm using it since about 2 weeks
[18:41] <matteo> no problems
[18:44] Action: nbd doesn't have time
[18:55] <freezer> wrt: no!
[18:56] <harazoncu> :dito:
[18:57] Action: harazoncu herkese güle güle de
[19:14] <lemmy> where can i find qos-scripts_0.3_all?
[19:16] <lemmy> ah, found it.
[19:39] <mikea> Kaloz: are you there?
[19:53] <moonwatcher> any one here?
[19:55] <jakllsch> .
[19:55] <jakllsch> ENOTZEPHYR
[19:56] <moonwatcher> i guess xmas is not the time to find ppl here
[20:36] <justdave> is there any openwrt-specific documentation on using tc anywhere?
[20:36] <justdave> using the upstream tc documentation, all the examples just provide "RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument" for everything
[20:56] <Twister> hey all, just wanted to let ppl know of a problem im having. I have a Moto WR850G running RC4, It flashed fine, the only issue I seen was the wireless light didnt work, this was friday, I even unplugged and restarted the router to make sure all was ok, and it worked like a charm, well, now its tuesday, i just got back in the office, over the weekend someone was screwin around and the router got unplugged..now it seems to be bricked, no wireless broadcast,
[21:02] <mikea> Do you have a serial console?
[21:02] <Twister> no
[21:02] <Twister> ill probably hae to go in and do it manually
[21:03] <Twister> like as described on the site
[21:04] <Twister> i have a usb>rj45 adapter if that would work heehe
[21:05] <Growly|Work> what are the units of rssi?
[21:07] <Twister> lol
[21:08] <Thombo> I flashed OpenWrt RC4 on my WRT54GS v1.1 everything works fine, but i'm having trouble with my wifi-clients, the wifi clients get an ip-adress, but that's all.... I even can't ping my router or other devices in my lan...
[21:09] <Thombo> What i did to try solving the Problem: erased nvram vars -> no success -> flashed linksys firmware, resettet router, flashed RC4 -> no success (when the linksys FW was installed i had no trouble with the wifi clients)
[21:11] <Twister> naa
[21:11] <Thombo> any ideas why my wifi-clients get ip-adresses (ip-range is correct), but no connection is possible ?
[21:11] <Twister> i had this issue
[21:11] <Twister> well partly
[21:11] <Twister> cept mine wasnt even getting addresses
[21:11] <Twister> just a sec let me get you the address of the page on the wiki
[21:13] <Twister> http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Configuration
[21:13] <Twister> theres the papge
[21:13] <Twister> basically the commands you need to do is
[21:14] <Twister> nvram set wl0_mode=ap <--wL0 not w10
[21:14] <Twister> nvram set wl0_ssid=nameofrouter
[21:14] <Twister> nvram set wl0_infra=1
[21:15] <Twister> nvram set wl0_closed=0 <--unless you dont want it to broadcast the ssid then its 1
[21:15] <Twister> nvram set wl0_channel=11 <--if you use a diffrent channel for some reason put it instead of 11
[21:16] <Twister> then do nvram commit
[21:16] <Twister> and reboot
[21:16] <Twister> you should then get the broadcast
[21:16] <Growly|Work> which command line utilities provide information on signal strength (noise, rssi, snr)
[21:16] <Twister> that page also tells you how to set WEP and WPA encryption and password auth
[21:16] <Growly|Work> ?
[21:17] <Thombo> thats my config :) -> I can see the Access-Point, i can connect to my access-Point, my wifi-clients get ip-adresses (from the router via wlan) but i can't ping my router or any other devices in my network
[21:18] <Twister> Thombo, lets see if its an dhcp problem, try setting one of your clients statically
[21:18] <Thombo> i also tried: no encryption, wep64, wep128, wpa-psk -> same effect
[21:18] <Bjoern_Kaiser> Growly: iwlist?
[21:18] <Thombo> i also set static ip-adresses -> same effect
[21:18] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: sort out this problem first before you use encryption
[21:19] <Twister> Growly|Work: i think its iwconfig eth1 scanning (its iw something)
[21:20] <Twister> that will list all AP it picks up and tell you the sig strengh and noise
[21:20] <Thombo> encryption is off, i thought maybe its a securiry feature -> no security, no wifi-clients :) so i tried WEP an WPA. But when i notoced that this is not an security-feature is switched encprytion off
[21:20] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: have you changed anything in your firewall?
[21:20] <Thombo> no, i left the firewall untouched
[21:21] <Twister> im sorry
[21:21] <Twister> its iwlist eth1 scanning
[21:21] <Twister> that was for Growly|Work
[21:22] <Twister> Thombo: try setting the ip on one of your clients to like 192.168.10.2 with the gateway being 10.1 and if that dont work instead of 10 try 1 or 2
[21:22] <Teemu> hey, may I somehow make log from connect tries to my openwrt
[21:23] <Thombo> Twister: I set the gateway to the ip-adress of my router
[21:24] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: gateway is not relevant if you are trying to ping a device on the same subnet
[21:24] <Thombo> my router has 192.168.6.253, so i set my client to ip:192.168.6.1 smask:255.255.255.0 gateway:192.168.6.253 dns:192.168.6.253.
[21:25] <Thombo> sure, gateway is only used when accessing an other net
[21:26] <Thombo> my PC (connected via cable) has exactly the same adresses (expect ip: 192.168.6.6 for sure :) when i enable dhcp on my "cable-pc" i get an ip-adress an everything also works fine.
[21:28] Action: gr8w11ne thinks Thombo may have destroyed his bridge
[21:29] <Thombo> hmmmm..... how can i fix my bridge? In S45firewall ?
[21:30] <Thombo> is it possible the DHCP works on the WLAN-interface if the bridge is broken ?
[21:31] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: the scripts should build the bridge as along as you have the correct nvram names and settings
[21:32] <Thombo> gr8w11ne: iptables -A FORWARD -i br0 -o br0 -j ACCEPT -> you mean this ?
[21:33] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: can you pastebin your output from the ifconfig command?
[21:33] <Thombo> ifconfig br0 = br0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:10:1F:B6:DE
[21:33] <Thombo> inet addr:192.168.6.253 Bcast:192.168.6.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
[21:33] <Thombo> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[21:33] <Thombo> RX packets:358013 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[21:33] <Thombo> TX packets:230682 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[21:33] <Thombo> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[21:33] <Thombo> RX bytes:79991128 (76.2 MiB) TX bytes:62551361 (59.6 MiB)
[21:35] <Thombo> i thinks the output looks good....
[21:35] <gr8w11ne> hmm appears to fine
[21:38] <Thombo> i think i't could not be a hardware error, because with linksys firmware it works...
[21:42] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: if you are obtaining DHCP then the base level is working
[21:43] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: you can check your firewall with the iptables -L -nvx command against my firewall rules for a RC3 on a GS1.0 at http://pastebin.com/472188
[21:43] <gr8w11ne> brb
[21:46] <GGiveMMe> I've got a server 2003 acting as a dhcp server. It is hooked up to the vlan0 and working fine. Eth1 or wifi is enabled and configured on my wrt54g with WEP enabled and my laptop can see the access point but never gets a dhcp lease. Can anyone help m with this problem?
[21:50] <Thombo> Big thanks to you, gr8w11ne, but i don't think its the firewall
[21:50] <jumpkick> seems my forum account is slow in sending confirmation....
[21:51] <jumpkick> ah well, I've put some stuff I extracted from my RTP300 into http://www.northern.ca/projects/open-rtp/
[21:51] <jumpkick> an extract of the 1.0.55 file system and the contents of all the files in proc
[21:54] <GGiveMMe> any ideas on the dhcp stuff guys?
[21:54] <GGiveMMe> or gals
[21:58] <mikea> GGiveMMe: what happens when you leave wep turned off?
[22:01] <gr8w11ne> Thombo: my only other suggestion is to boot into failsafe and run firstboot
[22:03] <GGiveMMe> same
[22:03] <GGiveMMe> no dhcp lease
[22:28] <lucaferr> What's my best bet for routing ospf? quagga?
[22:29] <Prest> I have just used jtag to flash cfe.nin to my router and then tried to ping it
[22:29] <Prest> it pinged OK but never timed out which I think is not correct
[22:30] <Prest> I then tftp'ed the firmware and it said it had succeeded but the router still does not work
[22:30] <Prest> anyone any ideas
[22:31] <Prest> am I right in thinking the wrt54g only needs the cfe.bin file and the kernal
[22:32] <freezer> when will rc5 be released?
[22:32] <lemmy> 26.12 according to trac
[22:33] <freezer> mh and what would be the biggest changes?
[22:34] <lemmy> have a look for yourself on dev.openwrt.org
[22:43] <justdave> anyone have any experience using tc on openwrt? using the upstream tc documentation, all the examples just provide "RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument" for everything
[22:44] <gr8w11ne> Prest: can you boot into failsafe?
[22:45] <Prest> well I'm trying to load the linksys firmware
[22:45] <Prest> at the moment
[22:45] <Prest> using windows
[22:45] <zinx> erh
[22:46] <zinx> why were you messing with the CFE?
[22:46] <gr8w11ne> Prest: that is theraputic - why the linksys firmware?
[22:46] <Prest> in desperation I'm jtaging the kernal into it now,, it will take a while
[22:46] <zinx> and what did you do to break it in the first place?
[22:46] <Prest> well the others didn't work
[22:47] <Prest> so i thought I'de go back to basics with a small old version
[22:47] <BadKnees> Is the some kinda of scanner available for openwrt which can show me the radio sinners. Which ssid's are occupiing which channel and things like that
[22:48] <gr8w11ne> BadKnees: kismet_drone
[22:48] <Prest> I broke it when I downloaded dd-wrt to it
[22:48] <BadKnees> kismet_drone,hmm thanks
[22:50] <gr8w11ne> Prest: dd-wrt would not have hosed your CFE
[22:50] <Prest> after I boke the router and tried unsuccessfully to recover it I erased the whole of the flash with jtag
[22:50] <Prest> yes i understand that
[22:50] <Prest> but after trying to get the thing working and failed I decided to have a clean start
[22:51] <Prest> and erased the whole lot
[22:51] <Prest> now i have put the CFE.bin file back again
[22:51] <gr8w11ne> Prest: and you were able to recover using your CFE backup
[22:52] <Prest> and tftp'ed the kernal but still it is not working
[22:52] <Prest> the kernal said it had successfullt compleated
[22:52] <Prest> well i download a new cfe
[22:52] <Prest> off the web
[22:53] <Prest> from here
[22:53] <Prest> http://lonewolf.hacker-nin.com/wrt/cfe/cfe.php?model=g11&use=g11
[22:54] <Prest> do you know what the difference is between cfe.bin and pmon.bin
[22:54] <edouard> is there a module i have to insmod before ipt-ttl to have the --ttl-set option for iptables ?
[22:55] <gr8w11ne> Prest: different bootloaders - pmon was the original one
[22:55] <Prest> do they do different things
[22:55] <edouard> i have insmoded ipt-ttl but still I get an error with this command: iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i vlan1 -j TTL --ttl-inc 1
[22:56] <edouard> it tells me that --ttl-inc is not a valid option (same thing for --ttl-set)
[22:56] <edouard> i suppose another module have to be loaded for ipt-ttl to work
[22:56] <gr8w11ne> Prest: what version of WRT54G do you have?
[22:56] <Prest> 1.1
[23:00] <crashev> edouard: insmod ipt_TTL?
[23:00] <gr8w11ne> Prest: iirc v1.0 uses PMON v2.0 uses CFE - not sure what 1.1 uses
[23:00] <crashev> ttl is for -m ttl
[23:00] <crashev> targets are uppercase always
[23:01] <edouard> crashev : i tried that, but it is not enougth
[23:01] <BadKnees> client, drone og server, hmm
[23:01] <edouard> crashev : so I suppose i need to load something else
[23:02] <edouard> crashev : but i dont know what, i have loaded all the ipt_* modules
[23:02] <edouard> crashev : any idea ?
[23:02] <gr8w11ne> BadKnees: drone collects the data - server processes it - client displays it
[23:02] <Prest> I have a friend who has a similar unit I will borrow it tomorrow and download the cfe.bin from it
[23:03] <crashev> edouard: check ls /usr/lib/iptables/*TTL* do you have TTL mod there for iptables?
[23:03] <crashev> if not then you also need to recompile iptables
[23:03] <BadKnees> gr8w11ne, thanks
[23:04] <crashev> or just compile it with TTL and copy it to router /usr/lib/iptables/
[23:04] <edouard> crashev : no I dont have that,
[23:05] <crashev> I do have ;]
[23:05] <crashev> # ls /usr/lib/iptables/*TTL*
[23:05] <crashev> /usr/lib/iptables/libipt_TTL.so
[23:05] <crashev> so You need to recompile iptables properly
[23:05] <edouard> crashev : I have installed openwrt from the image, does it mean that i have to get the sdk from the website ?
[23:05] <crashev> hmm
[23:06] <crashev> what version?
[23:06] <crashev> I suppose RC4 has ipt_TTL...
[23:06] <edouard> crashev : I have the RC4
[23:07] <BadKnees> i remember something about --noheader somewhere. Is there a nvram variable so that i can tftp trx file instead of all these silly header files
[23:07] <edouard> and i am not to familiar with compiling for openwrt
[23:08] <edouard> i have installed the ipt-ttl package, why would iptable need to be recompiled ?
[23:09] <edouard> maybe a reboot will do the trick
[23:10] <olli_04> edourd: in white russian rc4 there is no ipt-ttl package
[23:10] <olli_04> edouard
[23:10] <edouard> olli_04 : well, i just installed from the web interface !
[23:11] <edouard> root@OpenWrt:~# insmod ipt_ttl
[23:11] <edouard> Using /lib/modules/2.4.30/ipt_ttl.o
[23:11] <edouard> there it is
[23:11] <olli_04> edouard: execute busybox and show me the line with the date in it
[23:12] <edouard> BusyBox v1.00 (2005.11.23-21:46+0000) multi-call binary
[23:12] <olli_04> edouard: i don't know than
[23:13] <edouard> olli_04 : this is strange, the ipt_ttl module is loaded, but it cannot use --ttl-* !
[23:13] <edouard> olli_04 : and my "provider" sets ttl to one
[23:14] <edouard> olli_04 : do I need to compile a fresh version of openwrt to get that module ?
[23:15] <olli_04> edouard: i don't know than
[23:15] <olli_04> i never used ttl in iptables
[23:15] <edouard> olli_04 : i think it is just a problem of having the rigth module
[23:16] <BadKnees> edouard, do you have /usr/lib/libipt_TTL.so
[23:16] <Prest> am I right in thinking that the wholeflash consists of the cfe.bin the kernal and nvram?
[23:17] <jakllsch> Prest: and the filesystem
[23:17] <Prest> and that nvram will be made on the next boot by the cfe and kernal
[23:17] <edouard> no, but i have /lib/modules/2.4.30/ipt_ttl.o
[23:18] <BadKnees> you need both
[23:18] <Prest> do I have to load the filesystem in manually
[23:18] <edouard> BadKnees : where do I get the missing part ?
[23:18] <BadKnees> ipkg iptables-extra or something
[23:18] <BadKnees> i thing
[23:18] <BadKnees> i think
[23:18] <jakllsch> Prest: depends alot on your version of CFE. no, the filesystem is part of the openwrt image
[23:19] <Prest> so it is part of the kernal
[23:20] <edouard> BadKnees : thanks, I will install that, but i have to unplug to give the connexion to the router
[23:21] <a1es> i installed Development branch (codename Kamikaze) on WL-HDD and is real kamikadze ! no ports open anymore !
[23:22] <olli_04> a1es: from https://dev.openwrt.org/wiki --> "Please never use any selfcompiled image of Kamikaze, if you have no access to serial console. The chance to brick your router with the development version is very high (f.e. 2.6 brcm support is very experimental)."
[23:22] <wigyori> lol
[23:23] <BadKnees> The hammer logo looks like topenwrt
[23:23] <a1es> olli_04: hm, going to solder serial console ...
[23:24] <a1es> or maybe try whiterussian ...
[23:26] <gr8w11ne> Prest: what you end up with is four partitions CFE Linux NVRAM JFFs2. iirc the CFE/firmware should create an nvram partition where none exist. OpenWrt will create the jffs2 partition
[23:29] <gr8w11ne> Prest: try tftp an openwrt image, boot into failsafe, flush your arp cache and connect to 192.168.1.1
[23:30] <Prest> gr8w11ne I will try that tomorrow its getting a bit late now,,, I don't know much about linux thats why i have not done a lot with open wrt
[23:31] <Prest> can i call you tomorrow? are you on skype or msn
[23:33] <gr8w11ne> Prest: if I am at my desk I will respond on this channel - see if you can find out which bootloader is used for v1.1
[23:34] <Prest> yes I will know in the morning when I get the other router here
[23:34] <Prest> gr8w11ne where in the world are you?
[23:34] <Prest> gr8w11ne so I know your time
[23:34] <Prest> gr8w11ne I'm in the UK
[23:35] <Wonka> Prest: you client seems to be funny somehow... 'Y´BUgr8w11neU'
[23:35] <Wonka> narf
[23:35] <Prest> wonka I don't understand you
[23:35] <Wonka> Prest: it puts some funny stuff around nicks, looks like this: 'Ugr8w11neU'
[23:36] <Prest> I don't know why that is
[23:36] <Prest> is it still there?
[23:37] <Wonka> it's only there when you address someone...
[23:37] <Prest> it might be invision doing it
[23:37] <Prest> I won't use it to address people from now on
[23:37] <Wonka> 'k
[23:38] <gr8w11ne> Prest: New Zealand its morning here
[23:38] <Prest> it might be trying to use codes to change colours
[23:39] <Wonka> which is evil
[23:39] <gr8w11ne> Prest: but other people may be able to help you so just ask
[23:39] <Wonka> "normal" irc users just prefix their message with the nick of the target person, a colon and a space
[23:39] <Prest> <gr8w11ne> can I give you a call in my morning which will be your evening
[23:40] <Prest> OK I'll try tomorrow
[23:40] <gr8w11ne> Prest: sometimes I am on in the evening
[23:40] <Prest> OK thanks for your help it is appreciated
[23:41] <Prest> goodnight
[23:42] <gr8w11ne> Prest: one more thing - read the wiki about OpenWrt failsafe
[23:43] <Prest> OK will do,,
[23:44] <warjeep> anyone know where i can find aircrack 2.41
[23:44] Action: gr8w11ne found that linksysinfo.org refer to failsafe as the CFE state after you have jumped the pins which can be confusing
[23:44] <Prest> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Security/aircrack-7158.shtml
[23:44] <gr8w11ne> Prest: nite
[23:45] <Prest> nite nite
[23:46] <a1es> olli_04: do you know what the exact procedure to reset wl-hdd ?
[23:46] <olli_04> a1es: no
[23:47] <a1es> hold 5 sec reset button, disconnect power, hold for ages, then power led blinks, and then tftp ? anybody ?
[23:47] <Kaloz> does anyone have here a bcm4704 based router with serial console? :p
[23:47] <warjeep> thanks prest
[23:48] <cableroy> alrs: i think you need to power it up again, to make it light hehe
[23:49] <a1es> i found recepies only for asus WL-500G and WL-300G.
[23:53] <cableroy> alrs: witch one are you looking for?
[23:53] <a1es> cableroy: WL-HDD 2.5
[23:55] <a1es> cableroy: you should type nick correctly, then it gets nice color :P
[23:56] <pyrom> Hmm
[23:56] <pyrom> my wl500g deluxe works nice as a usb- cups printer server
[23:57] <pyrom> can i somehow add bluetooth support, so that i can print from my pda and my cell phone?
[23:57] <pyrom> e.g insert a bluetooth dongle, and somehow get it working with cups?
[23:57] <pyrom> install bluez stack?
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